Restoration and Installation of a Van Wert 400

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Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 8:29 am

I think you did a remarkable photo tour and the results speak for themselves. A few chilly nights in September will make you get it hooked up and fired. I assume that the underground line will be disconnected and the shop will have its own heat source. The fuel usage will be another benefit, even with two running. A cold shop just plain isn't fun. Thanks for sharing with the rest of us!

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Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 10:26 am

Scottscoaled wrote:Thanks for the help posting Robb. Sometimes you have to help the computer challenged :D
No problem. For some reason when I combined the video pieces part of one got duplicated. I ran out of time to mess with it so what you see is what you get. :)

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska, Keystoker-2,Leisure Line
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Ford, Jensen, NYer, Van Wert,
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwoods
Coal Size/Type: Barley, Buck, Rice ,Nut, Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB
Location: Central NH, Concord area

Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 12:01 pm

Does the 'Green Theme' remind you of Kermit the frog? Just wonderin'...........

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Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 2:08 pm

whistlenut wrote:Does the 'Green Theme' remind you of Kermit the frog? Just wonderin'...........
Kermit's finger smells like pork???

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Post Sun. Aug. 18, 2013 8:54 pm

So the old new oil boiler was removed and the new old coal boiler is set in place. Looks like it belongs there. Had a crisis meltdown yesterday. Was walking by the stoker on the bench and bumped it. Before I could put down my armful of stuff, it crashed to the floor. It broke off the fines clean out. I was so bummed I almost cried. It was perfect. I gotta stop getting so,attached to my boilers. Man! :)
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Post Fri. Aug. 30, 2013 8:22 pm

Hey! How about an update?

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Post Fri. Aug. 30, 2013 9:38 pm

Ok! I would be pleased to offer pictures.
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It looks pretty good to me. There are some odds and ends to finish like the boiler blow off and the timer.
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Left a space for a couple close spaced tee's to plumb in a backup.
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Stoker matches pretty good. Color co-ordinated.
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Post Fri. Aug. 30, 2013 9:42 pm

Only one word can describe it. Beautiful!

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Post Fri. Aug. 30, 2013 9:50 pm

Thanks Larry. You are too kind. Still need to finish the stoker motor cover. There is another secret project in the works that has me excited. More to come on that later.
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The smallest of the Van Werts fits right in the spot the oil boiler used to call home. It has the almost the same footprint, and with a 55 gallon drum would take up less space than the oil boiler with a tank. It is silent compared to the oil boiler.

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Post Sat. Aug. 31, 2013 9:13 am

Beautiful install. Very few people are willing to remove their oil boiler entirely, but I think it was the way to go with your basement dimensions. Your coal consumption will be chopped at least 50% by moving the boiler to the house, and installing that fancy control someone told you about.

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Post Sat. Aug. 31, 2013 2:52 pm

All these people worried about backup systems and all. What I have found out during the last several years is that the coal boilers are about the most dependable things out there. They are a little more work but nothing ever really breaks. There isn't yearly costs from replacing nozzles or filters or setting the CO2 right. All the boilers that I've trucked out of Pa. and how many of those places had backup oil boilers? None. Period. Most places were old people who couldn't take the ashes out anymore. They had new gas units installed. And almost to a one, they would sad when the boiler was going down the road. Some places were young people who just bought or inherited the house from old people. That in itself says a lot about the quality and character of the old coal boilers. Me, truthfully, I can't wait to put some furniture polish on that bad boy and really make it shine! It makes it easier to keep it clean.

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Post Sat. Aug. 31, 2013 7:14 pm

SC

Nicely done :clap: And I thought I was the only one with a chair for vewing :oops: Now if only there was room for the 50" flatscreen on the wall :gee: Your on easy street now! Congrats

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Waldo

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Post Sun. Sep. 01, 2013 8:35 am

waldo lemieux wrote:And I thought I was the only one with a chair for vewing
Nope, I have one too. :D
waldo lemieux wrote:Now if only there was room for the 50" flatscreen on the wall
You are supposed to open that door on the front of the boiler instead. :)

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Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
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Location: Chazy, NY

Post Sun. Sep. 01, 2013 8:41 am

Scottscoaled wrote: There isn't yearly costs from replacing nozzles or filters or setting the CO2 right.
Good point. Units like this Van Wert also also extremely efficient in terms of combustion and heat exchange.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska, EFM, Keystoker, Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska, Keystoker-2,Leisure Line
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska, Gibraltar, Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Ford, Jensen, NYer, Van Wert,
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwoods
Coal Size/Type: Barley, Buck, Rice ,Nut, Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB
Location: Central NH, Concord area

Post Sun. Sep. 01, 2013 12:30 pm

As Scott mentioned, the need of a backup boiler is simply an insurance company or Bank requirement. I have operated the AA 130's and 260's at all locations with NO BACKUP either. To satisfy the Bank of Ins Co. simply add a few Electric heat baseboards of something along that line. Many who don't burn 24/7/365 can use an electric hot water heater for domestic hot water and I have also have seen a couple 80 and 120 gal tanks with a water to water heat exchangers to 'sweeten the deal'. It all works....solar, geo, heat pump,......be creative and DON'T sweat the small stuff!!!!

I think the 'Boiler Name Game' demands that Van Werts be called "Kermies" with all due respect. It ain't easy being green......... :eek2: :woot: :mrgreen: :bang: :whip:

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