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jeff216410
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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 9:21 am

Your burn looks great. I've always leaned toward a feed setting that leaves me at least a good inch or inch and a half of ash at the end of the grate. If you keep an eye on it regularly you'll see that vary; probably from variations in coal because the feed system and timers are basically so consistent. If it's really cold out I may try to fine tune it a little closer to the edge to get a little more heat out of it, but usually I haven't found it necessary - hate to push good coal off the edge into the pan. Another note - I don't have any DHW storage tank, so my LL temp might be a little higher. I'm running right off the hot water coil and my LL is usually 170. I have to run a bathtup for the little one and that's a huge hot water demand in a short period of time. Plus, the wife likes really hot showers. I'm storing a little more heat in the boiler to meet those needs. I may install a hot water tank this winter for a little more capacity. Tuning the burn to not hit the dump zone on a 98 degree day is tricky but possible. I'm sure an indirect tank would help a great deal giving some thermal mass to store some heat in. Curious to see where that L6006A trips at keep us posted!

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 10:59 am

Your burn looks great. I've always leaned toward a feed setting that leaves me at least a good inch or inch and a half of ash at the end of the grate. If you keep an eye on it regularly you'll see that vary; probably from variations in coal because the feed system and timers are basically so consistent.
I have 8 tons of rice from my July delivery so it should be hands off for a while. I noticed the feed screw drifts around wandering if you or anyone else runs a locking nut on the threaded adjuster?
I don't have any DHW storage tank, so my LL temp might be a little higher. I'm running right off the hot water coil and my LL is usually 170. I have to run a bathtup for the little one and that's a huge hot water demand in a short period of time. Plus, the wife likes really hot showers.
I hope to save a little bit on the PECO bill with WL110 DHW generation. Having 50 gal ready to go with 4 adults helps on morning showers.
Curious to see where that L6006A trips at keep us posted!
Me too, going to pull that out on Sunday and bring up to the kitchen range. If the L6006A is out in left field I may just try to solder up a deeper well for the Dwyer Love TS2-10 which is DOBA and slap that in the left 1.25" port.

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 11:17 am

dh1200s wrote:I have 8 tons of rice from my July delivery so it should be hands off for a while. I noticed the feed screw drifts around wandering if you or anyone else runs a locking nut on the threaded adjuster?
I put tape on the feed screw to remember where my set point was. I snug it into the stoker and it hasn't drifted on me at all.

But a locking nut makes more sense. ;)

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 11:19 am

kstills wrote:
dh1200s wrote:I have 8 tons of rice from my July delivery so it should be hands off for a while. I noticed the feed screw drifts around wandering if you or anyone else runs a locking nut on the threaded adjuster?
I put tape on the feed screw to remember where my set point was. I snug it into the stoker and it hasn't drifted on me at all.

But a locking nut makes more sense. ;)
Mine drifts as well. We will have to start adding one in the future I guess. Who would have thunk it.

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 12:31 pm

Oddly my boiler did not come with any screw in there at all, So I've been running a bolt with a wingnut to lock it in place. Maybe it fell out in shipping or something if it was backed out almost all the way. The wingnut holds the setting because I remember the screw thread being a little loose.

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 1:15 pm

The screw was not in place on mine as it was in another package of materials .Mine drifts also so I just taped a short piece of string to the l shape of the screw and tied a 5/8 nut to it . The only down side to that is I can only get full turns but that has worked out okay for me . My timer settings are 40 sec. on and 11 min. off , I do have a good draft in the burn area usually .o3 to .o4 .
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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 1:32 pm

Yep I'll lock down the feed screw like Jeff's wing nut fix.

WL110 has forced the Tarm 202 into retirement :)

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Post Fri. Nov. 09, 2012 6:30 pm

jeff216410 wrote:Oddly my boiler did not come with any screw in there at all, So I've been running a bolt with a wingnut to lock it in place. Maybe it fell out in shipping or something if it was backed out almost all the way. The wingnut holds the setting because I remember the screw thread being a little loose.
Sorry about that we tape them to the feed motor cover, it must have fallen off. Let me know if you want one by sending your address to me in a PM, I'll send one right out. :)

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Post Sun. Nov. 11, 2012 7:40 pm

jeff216410 wrote:Curious to see where that L6006A trips at keep us posted!
Update on L6006A temp trip issue.

I removed the L6006A from the left port of the WL110 today and immersed the bulb in a pot of boiling water to get a feel for the trip point of the aqustat. After 5 minutes the trip point settled around 155F on the dial. After 15 minutes the trip point was still at 155F.

I made up a copper well for the Dwyer Love TS2-10 Dig temp switch probe (TS-1 Probe, PTC sensor ). The ID of the well was a little sloppy to the fit , I immersed it in a pot of boiling water and after 5 minutes or so the temp on the TS2-10 stopped rising at 211 Deg F. I think it’s a bit closer to a true measured reading than my L6006A. I have attached some pics of the well and boiling pot test.

I got the well measured up, soldered up and installed in the left port of the WL110 without losing the coal bed.

I took a pic of the TS2-10 turned upside down to do a side by side of the L7224 dig reading vs the TS2-10. The TS2-10 is a bit closer in reading to the L7224 and I will go with the TS2-10 dump zone/shut down control for now...............Dick

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4-TS2-10 compare with L7224 dig.JPG

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Post Mon. Nov. 26, 2012 4:51 am

Thanks for the data, I have done a similar test and found that the particular 6006 that I was testing tripped at a little over 200, so I guess there is some variation there, if you want to you can send the 6006 back to us and we will send you a new one free of charge, I can even test it first if you like, to verify it is more accurate.

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Post Mon. Nov. 26, 2012 11:21 am

Hey Matt,

Thank you for the swap out. I’ll place the replacement L6006 back on the Tarm 202 I have mounted the Dwyer TS2-10 on the WL110 from my Tarm boiler. I like the dig readout and accuracy of this dig temp switch. Pic attached of mounting on the WL110.

I broke out the pot again to check once more and after several minutes the L6006 would not trip past 155F.

Let me know where to send the L6006 if you can PM me with an adr. I’ll leave the dial set to the trip point I measured.

WL110 is running great and thank you for your support………..Dick
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Post Sun. Dec. 02, 2012 10:58 pm

You are very welcome, as we discussed ion the PM a new 6006 will be on it's way as soon as I get the old one, thank you for all the feed back! :)

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 10:05 pm

Matt,

Got the replacement L6006 today. Attached is a pic of the trip point on the kitchen range test.The trip point (see pic) is much better then 155F trip point that would go no higher for the original stat.

This stat will go back on the Tarm.

Thank you for the great customer support :D . WL110 is running great.....Tarm may not run at all this winter.

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