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- CoalHeat
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- Location: Stillwater, New Jersey
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Sounds good, I bookmarked that site, they have a lot of products.
- CoalHeat
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
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Excellent!
- Rob R.
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- Location: Chazy, NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
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Progress has been slow, but I finally finished sweating the copper for the DHW heat exchanger. The price of copper has gone nuts, so I did the best I could with what I had leftover from last year. It will be pex from there to the heat exchanger.
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- franpipeman
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- Location: Wernersville pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
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copper always looks nice especially when nice and shiny and straight. this is how it would look with pex
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- Rob R.
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That looks pretty good. I was concerned about trying to support the PEX when it was hot. By going up with copper and transitioning to PEX for the straight runs it worked out pretty well. Some of the copper I used is 50 years old, reclaimed during our remodel.franpipeman wrote: ↑Sun. Oct. 03, 2021 8:16 amcopper always looks nice especially when nice and shinyand straight. this is how it would look with pex
- Rob R.
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Thanks. I used what scrap copper I had to get the piping run halfway to the heat exchanger, and did the rest with pex leftover from our remodel last year. It is a good thing this is the last heating project I have planned. The price of materials has really gone up, and I have hardly any pipe leftover.
So far I am happy with the performance of the heat exchanger. I had drained the water heater prior to the install, and when I refilled it the heat exchanger got the water plenty hot enough for a shower. It is supposed to get back into the 70's this afternoon, so I will probably shut the boiler down and wait for cooler weather before restarting it.
- hotblast1357
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- Location: Peasleeville NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
- Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
- Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace
I’ve been waiting to start mine as well, one thing I’ve noticed is I never run out of hot water using house fixtures, but if I use the garden hose I can run out, like for instances filling the hot tub with hot water, I have a 20 plate 80,000 btu, obviously I’m not running out of boiler, must be the circulator?
- Rob R.
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You are pulling more heat out of the exchanger than you are putting in. I am sure mine would do the same - I only have it piped with 3/4" and get about 4 gallons per minute through it on the boiler side.hotblast1357 wrote: ↑Mon. Oct. 11, 2021 7:41 amI’ve been waiting to start mine as well, one thing I’ve noticed is I never run out of hot water using house fixtures, but if I use the garden hose I can run out, like for instances filling the hot tub with hot water, I have a 20 plate 80,000 btu, obviously I’m not running out of boiler, must be the circulator?
- hotblast1357
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I am piped with 1/1/4 to manifold, then 1” to heat exchanger.
- Rob R.
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That is a pretty good setup. To pull more heat out of your boiler I think you would need a larger plate exchanger.hotblast1357 wrote: ↑Mon. Oct. 11, 2021 11:19 amI am piped with 1/1/4 to manifold, then 1” to heat exchanger.
The notes for my 20 plate say:
BTU Rating: 40,000
BTU Rating is based on 10 GPM; 180F water.
These plate exchangers are handy to install and work well with a tank, but they are not nearly as effective at harnessing heat from the boiler as a tankless coil.
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Looks good!
Started mine last week because it got into the 40's and mom got cold, now it's 78 degrees downstairs lol. Mom don't mind one bit!
Started mine last week because it got into the 40's and mom got cold, now it's 78 degrees downstairs lol. Mom don't mind one bit!
- hotblast1357
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Hmm, my specs are 80,000 btus at 3.5 GPMRob R. wrote: ↑Mon. Oct. 11, 2021 12:55 pmThat is a pretty good setup. To pull more heat out of your boiler I think you would need a larger plate exchanger.
The notes for my 20 plate say:
BTU Rating: 40,000
BTU Rating is based on 10 GPM; 180F water.
These plate exchangers are handy to install and work well with a tank, but they are not nearly as effective at harnessing heat from the boiler as a tankless coil.
I think mine might be a lil over rated..