My New Coal Burning Buddy EFM 350

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k9 Bara
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Post Sat. Oct. 23, 2010 10:42 am

:) Thanks to Scrapper (& Ann Marie) and Coal Berner. My Nephew and I went to PA Wed afternoon and picked up my new heating appliance for the house. Great people, I had fun chatting and picking up the new to me 350. Scrapper set it up w/ S-20 and I should be more happy for a very long time. I had to take the base apart to get it off the truck myself. We didn't get home til Thurs morning at 2:30am. And both Thurs and Friday I had to work but I have managed to get a bit done already. Please don't mind the mess, Boiler is going in my shop. Im very excited to get 'er up and fired! :D .

As I was told, all panels, joints... all sealed with HI temp RTV both inside and out. Around the S-20 mounting blocks and auger tube assembly. Getting closer!! ;)
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Post Sat. Oct. 23, 2010 10:50 am

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Post Sat. Oct. 23, 2010 11:10 am

So far
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Post Sat. Oct. 23, 2010 8:27 pm

Congrats on the trip to Pine Grove. Keep us updated with pictures.

-Robert

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Post Sun. Oct. 24, 2010 5:16 pm

Nice looking boiler. I know that you will have it running before mine. :?

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Post Sun. Oct. 24, 2010 6:20 pm

Truly 'tis a thing of beauty ! You've got to be excited.

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Post Sun. Oct. 24, 2010 6:38 pm

Hey George! I'm sooo friggen jealous! Congrats!
Yep, I think you'll have your 350 installed before John gets his up and running :P

Is your Dad gonna do the copper?

When does the tractor/trailer load of buc arrive ? :clap: :up:

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Post Sun. Oct. 24, 2010 10:58 pm

Thanks guys, yes I'm excited for sure :) . Copper? Wow, the price at a estimate about knocked me over, lol. Nope, gonna use pex. Work came to a stop already. I had to put a stoker together today so I can sell it. I hope to have the EFM up and running in a couple weeks but would like to use the sale of a stove money instead of savings. I love working on the stokers but they are starting to pile up. I have 2 Alaska Kodiak Stokers, that Econo1, another Alaska Channing and a Keystoker Hearth. Not counting the DVC-500 in the house that will be up for sale after a good long run with the EFM.

I gotta say that Coal Berner has gone beyond being nice and helpful. He continues to listen to questions I have. He took me back to his house and showed the 520 he has running in his house. What a great setup he has, and then he gave me the plastic blue barrel to use as a temp hopper. I am very thankful and appreciative to his help and knowledge.

What a week, my wife is due with our third child any day ;) , went tp PA and met Scrapper and Coal Berner and got the boiler, bought another stoker(lol) and work issued me a brand new AR-15. :D :D

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Post Mon. Oct. 25, 2010 6:56 am

k9 Bara wrote:Thanks guys, yes I'm excited for sure :) . Copper? Wow, the price at a estimate about knocked me over, lol. Nope, gonna use pex.
I have lost track of the cost of the copper and fittings for our EFM install. Ballpark is $800 for 20' of 1.25" copper, elbows, unions, ball valves, circulator w/ isolation flanges, new expansion tank, and other adds/ends.

Is this going to be a stand-alone install or is the EFM tied in with another boiler?

-Robert

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Post Mon. Oct. 25, 2010 8:15 am

Yep, I think you'll have your 350 installed before John gets his up and running :P
I have lost track of the cost of the copper and fittings for our EFM install. Ballpark is $800 for 20' of 1.25" copper, elbows, unions, ball valves, circulator w/ isolation flanges, new expansion tank, and other adds/ends.
I have to admit that the $$$ is in short supply right now, that's one of the 2 reasons I haven't gotten much done. The other reason is time!
I gotta say that Coal Berner has gone beyond being nice and helpful. He continues to listen to questions I have. He took me back to his house and showed the 520 he has running in his house. What a great setup he has, and then he gave me the plastic blue barrel to use as a temp hopper. I am very thankful and appreciative to his help and knowledge.
Agreed, JC has done a lot for many of us and for this forum.

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Post Mon. Oct. 25, 2010 8:45 am

She is a nice look'in unit 8-) It's a shame to cover her up with the pannels. Wonder how many BTU's would be lost without the insulation. The axeman someone posted at 5,000 BTU's lost by square feet and temp, if the figure is correct. I thought of making covers but it seems to keep the heat under control.

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Post Tue. Nov. 16, 2010 5:38 pm

AA130FIREMAN wrote:She is a nice look'in unit 8-) It's a shame to cover her up with the pannels. Wonder how many BTU's would be lost without the insulation. The axeman someone posted at 5,000 BTU's lost by square feet and temp, if the figure is correct. I thought of making covers but it seems to keep the heat under control.
Not much heatloss at all it will take the temp up in the room that it is installed in to 10 to 12 degrees ran mine without Jackets room temp 82F to 84F ran with Jackets on room temp 70 to 72F

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Post Tue. Nov. 30, 2010 1:02 pm

Well, I finally got the pex in. I did not expect it to look this way. Only other pex I've seen was non pex al pex. This suff looks nice, shiny outside, same color as the ceiling and wall it will be running along. When I picked it up, it was cold. But wow, is it stiff. I hope it works a bit easier when I get it warmed up. One step closer.. :)
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Post Tue. Nov. 30, 2010 2:42 pm

Get some help to do the PEX.
That stuff will eat you alive if you try
to do it yourself.

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Post Tue. Nov. 30, 2010 2:46 pm

Yes that's the good stuff for hydronic heating systems. Meets spec ASTM F1282. Here's the spec sheet:

http://www.roth-usa.com/usa/pdf/Roth%20Submittal% ... %20(2).pdf

You may need to create an account to get to it. I did. Looks like there is a fair amount of installation data on the web site. Suggest you take a look.

Stiff is good, especially when you get older. :-)

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