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Post by Hoytman » Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 12:21 pm

“ States to sue EPA over 'damaging' environmental impact of residential wood-burning stoves”

https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/states-sue-epa ... ing-stoves

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 1:41 pm

Manchin is such an a-hole Billy. Not someone to be trusted--never was, never will be. :( Hope you're havin a good week-end. :)

 
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Post by warminmn » Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 2:35 pm

I was surprised Alaska was on the list of states. Yes lots of wood burned but not many people and spread out, plus a red state. Was not surprised to see my state. They need something real to worry about, not this. Like lithium fires or all the pollution it caused when they let the police station burn in Murderapolis during the riots. Real pollution stuff.

 
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 4:05 pm

I could not follow the article, what are the states suing for?

The EPA certification testing methods have been criticized from all angles. I think it is silly that EPA certified stoves are manufactured with flue length from the base of 14 to 16 feet. Many old houses have taller chimneys and nearly every house I have seen that was built in the 1970s and 80s have a short chimney, often no more than 10 feet. I see lots of 70s and 80s houses with metal relines that stretch into the air above the clay liner. If they could have test cases with varying flue lengths that would give resellers and buyers more options, but probably just make testing even more expensive.

I noticed with each new particulate standard the comes into affect, the average size of the stoves for sale get smaller.


 
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Post by waytomany?s » Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 6:22 pm

Manchin had nothing to do with that article. I hate how they do that, some video at top of article and it has nothing to do with the article itself. Aside from that, notice how no facts or even estimates were given? I think it was just a green stir the pot moment.

 
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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Tue. Jul. 04, 2023 10:36 am

Many gov't limits on things have a test method associated with it. So you design your product to pass the test. Why? Because that's just what the gov't told you to do, duh.

Can companies play the test? You bet. I 'm very good at doing that.

Gov't man : "We know your product has too much of that regulated stuff in it !"
Me: "It passes the test so I'm good"

People been doing this ever since the first gov't regulation.
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Jul. 30, 2023 5:07 pm

freetown fred wrote:
Mon. Jul. 03, 2023 1:41 pm
Manchin is such an a-hole Billy. Not someone to be trusted--never was, never will be. :( Hope you're havin a good week-end. :)
Don’t disagree.

Just thought it’s all hilarious distraction considering the amount of wildfire smoke.

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