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Post by McGiever » Sun. Nov. 20, 2022 10:43 pm

Col'_got_to_be wrote:
Sun. Nov. 20, 2022 7:12 pm
Yes, but have a separate line item for that? Include it into the price per kWh. It's not like delivery is optional, lol.
Two separate companies…generation and then distribution.

You get to “choose” who you buy the generation part from and can shop around for the best deal. But you’re stuck with who does the distribution to carry that power to your house meter.


 
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Post by k-2 » Mon. Nov. 21, 2022 2:25 am

Col'_got_to_be wrote:
Sun. Nov. 20, 2022 7:12 pm
EDIT: Can they dig frozen ground for a winter install? Or are they looking at the spring? I've heard about some areas having a natural gas scarcity as well.
They dig all winter. They take a 3x3 ft square out of the street above the gas line then send one of those hydraulic squirrels under the street to a meter set in front of your house. Due to fracking we have an abundance of Nat gas for now
but with all the power plants now using Nat gas these days it may not last forever. PA is second only to Texas in Nat gas reserves.
"At over 18 Bcf/d, Pennsylvania now yields over 20% of all U.S. gas, only behind Texas' 22 Bcf/d".

 
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Post by Randyks » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 3:13 pm

If a natural spring flows constantly underneath the 9' thick bedrock a house basement is built on, is drilling
through the 9' basement floor with an old DeepRock well driller and going with an open loop water-to-liquid heat exchanger the most efficient, (and cheapest), way to go for radiant floor heat? Upstate NY

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 3:42 pm

You would need a water to water (to use radiant) or water to air heat pump.

Depending on temperature and GPM you could heat and or cool using that water.

 
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Post by k-2 » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 4:01 pm

Randyks wrote:
Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 3:13 pm
If a natural spring flows constantly underneath the 9' thick bedrock a house basement is built on, is drilling
through the 9' basement floor with an old DeepRock well driller and going with an open loop water-to-liquid heat exchanger the most efficient, (and cheapest), way to go for radiant floor heat? Upstate NY
I think a deep well needs to be 300 feet deep and a certain diameter to be effective. My friend had 2 or 3 @ 300 foot deep wells dug for his, so far apart.
That deep rock drill wont get you near those specs/

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 5:27 pm

k-2 wrote:
Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 4:01 pm
I think a deep well needs to be 300 feet deep and a certain diameter to be effective. My friend had 2 or 3 @ 300 foot deep wells dug for his, so far apart.
That deep rock drill wont get you near those specs/
If this is a flowing spring it would be fine if it had enough GPM and correct temperature, it’s not just a static well like your friends.

 
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Post by Randyks » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 8:48 pm

It's a large volume spring flowing through gravel underground that feeds a local stream that never fails. I don't know the temperature, I didn't know it could vary from about 56 degrees. The small Deep Rock rig can be set up with the basement's headroom.


 
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Post by LouNY » Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 8:56 pm

No reason it wouldn't work with enough volume.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Jan. 11, 2023 6:05 am

Rob R. wrote:
Mon. Nov. 14, 2022 7:04 pm
Now that the cold weather is upon us I wondered how you were making out with the heat pumps?
On the days that are above 20, I have been turning off the tstat upstairs and running the heat pump all day, then at night before bed I switch back over to coal, I have a whole house electric monitor system coming in the mail today so I’ll be able to see exactly what everything is costing now. It’s 6 outside and surprisingly it is putting out good heat lol

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Thu. Jan. 12, 2023 6:47 pm

Got the whole house monitor wired in today, heat pump is pulling a steady 700-800 watts.

 
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Post by McGiever » Mon. Jan. 16, 2023 1:03 am

Randyks wrote:
Tue. Jan. 03, 2023 3:13 pm
If a natural spring flows constantly underneath the 9' thick bedrock a house basement is built on, is drilling
through the 9' basement floor with an old DeepRock well driller and going with an open loop water-to-liquid heat exchanger the most efficient, (and cheapest), way to go for radiant floor heat? Upstate NY
I know nothing of basement rock drilling.
But you are talking of a Ground Source Heat Pump (GSHP) used in a "pump and dump" (or as you say "open loop") arrangement.
Typically ground water temps decrease as with higher latitudes...for example Florida warmer and New York cooler but temperature is constant year round. What one may lose in cooler latitude for heating efficiencies would be made up for during summer cooling and vice versa.
I have installed and been using "pump and dump" for 30 years and I run multiple units and all DIY, so ask away. :)

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Mon. Jan. 16, 2023 7:42 am

Are any of these from your well that you drink from?

 
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Post by franpipeman » Wed. Jan. 18, 2023 8:22 am

consider hooking your heat pump out door unit unit up to a green house type structure or box to increase winter time heat pump performance

 
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Post by nut » Wed. Jan. 18, 2023 10:34 am

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Post by McGiever » Wed. Jan. 18, 2023 12:11 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:
Mon. Jan. 16, 2023 7:42 am
Are any of these from your well that you drink from?
Not in my case.

Your question is very vague...


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