PA electric rate increase

davidmcbeth3 · Post by **davidmcbeth3** » Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 1:50 am

Benny wrote: ↑
Thu. Jun. 02, 2022 6:05 am
Wolf wants to hand out 2 grand in free money. I don’t think I can handle anymore free money !!!!

They want people spending their time looking into handouts vs. noticing that the USA blew up that gas pipeline in the EU.

They want high electricity costs to push individuals into buying solar panels. My view.

BlackBetty06 · Post by **BlackBetty06** » Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 8:16 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑
Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 1:50 am
They want people spending their time looking into handouts vs. noticing that the USA blew up that gas pipeline in the EU.

They want high electricity costs to push individuals into buying solar panels. My view.

You are exactly right. Plus once everyone is forced onto the electric grid for every aspect of their life, its very easy to control people. You simply turn their life off until you do what they want you to do.

BlackBetty06 · Post by **BlackBetty06** » Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 8:17 am

Messed up my edit lol

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 2:30 pm

davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑
Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 1:50 am
They want people spending their time looking into handouts vs. noticing that the USA blew up that gas pipeline in the EU.
They want high electricity costs to push individuals into buying solar panels. My view.

Just 2 short yrs ago even with the chaos of Covid my generation rate was 5.9c Kwh. Now its 12 to 15c. Pretty much everything went to hell in those 2 short years.

davidmcbeth3 · Post by **davidmcbeth3** » Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 2:58 pm

k-2 wrote: ↑
Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 2:30 pm
Just 2 short yrs ago even with the chaos of Covid my generation rate was 5.9c Kwh. Now its 12 to 15c. Pretty much everything went to hell in those 2 short years.

15 cents ? I wish, try 24 cents/generating cost only + 15 cents delivery / kwh

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Sun. Dec. 18, 2022 10:34 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑
Fri. Dec. 16, 2022 2:58 pm
15 cents ? I wish, try 24 cents/generating cost only + 15 cents delivery / kwh

Wow where is that? Must be Hawaii. Id guess solar panels are popular there unless its in the far north.

davidmcbeth3 · Post by **davidmcbeth3** » Sun. Dec. 18, 2022 11:01 am

k-2 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 18, 2022 10:34 am
Wow where is that? Must be Hawaii. Id guess solar panels are popular there unless its in the far north.

Hawaii .. commie heaven . They better pray I don't move there.

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 12:13 am

Rates hikes are starting to ease up. Some companies now offering 10.59C KWH for generation. PPL rate is now 14.6c.

hank2 · Post by **hank2** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 3:08 am

Met-Ed, in 1.5 years, has gone from $ .054 to $.10303 for the price to compare. I only look at the bottom line cost to me, billing amount divided by KWH used. I believe that's at $.194 a KWH now. For the first time it looks like some of the 22 month lock in deals from other suppliers are competitive with Met-Ed. Another likely price increase on Mar. 1st.

What were my $50 months are now $80. The $90 months will be $140. Met-Ed hasn't generated power in years, AFAIK. I'm not sure what their parent company First Energy might still do. They were closing nuke and coal plants like crazy a few years back. Not the old Met-Ed Co my old man worked for 35 years, but just a local trade name for First Energy.

lincolnmania · Post by **lincolnmania** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 6:21 am

We locked into another company for primary generation at 10.79 cents figuring met-ed was going to follow ppl in march.
Who owns the power plant in Birdsboro and Near Leesport? both are natural gas.
They ran a natural gas pipeline near my house for the Birdsboro plant but we never got natural gas hookups for out homes. They went thru the woods near my house and under a few creeks.

The Titus station burned waste coal that was dredged from the river from the 40's to the 80's. They closed that a few years ago and people broke in to the plant and stole the copper.

nut · Post by **nut** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 10:04 am

My last 2 bills are about $100 over last year. Generation was ~$.07 last year. Now it's $.116. I just read Germany opened another liquid natural gas terminal. I assume that means for receiving our NG. Yea

waytomany?s · Post by **waytomany?s** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 10:33 am

nut wrote: ↑
Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 10:04 am
My last 2 bills are about $100 over last year. Generation was ~$.07 last year. Now it's $.116. I just read Germany opened another liquid natural gas terminal. I assume that means for receiving our NG. Yea

Yeah, and they're paying 100x more for it.

hank2 · Post by **hank2** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 12:35 pm

lincolnmania wrote: ↑
Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 6:21 am
We locked into another company for primary generation at 10.79 cents figuring met-ed was going to follow ppl in march.
Who owns the power plant in Birdsboro and Near Leesport? both are natural gas.
They ran a natural gas pipeline near my house for the Birdsboro plant but we never got natural gas hookups for out homes. They went thru the woods near my house and under a few creeks.

The Titus station burned waste coal that was dredged from the river from the 40's to the 80's. They closed that a few years ago and people broke in to the plant and stole the copper.

The gas gen plant on rt 61 is independent operator. I don't know about the Birdsboro plant, but likely the same. The original operators on the 61 plant were forced by the regulators to sell, some years back. The books a generator has to keep (not income, taxes) were cooked. I can't come up with their name now. Two bigger gas steam turbines and a small one driven by waste steam. There are times when they probably made a profit, like now.

Yeah, Titus station on the Schuylkill is long long gone. That place ate a lot of coal. I knew a guy that got to tour it in the 80's. He said it was impressive.

lincolnmania · Post by **lincolnmania** » Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 2:54 pm

hank2 wrote: ↑
Sun. Jan. 15, 2023 12:35 pm
The gas gen plant on rt 61 is independent operator. I don't know about the Birdsboro plant, but likely the same. The original operators on the 61 plant were forced by the regulators to sell, some years back. The books a generator has to keep (not income, taxes) were cooked. I can't come up with their name now. Two bigger gas steam turbines and a small one driven by waste steam. There are times when they probably made a profit, like now.

Yeah, Titus station on the Schuylkill is long long gone. That place ate a lot of coal. I knew a guy that got to tour it in the 80's. He said it was impressive.

I got a tour in 1988 with my shop class at the Oley Vo-Tech school. I took the electricity class. yes Titus station was impressive!

nut · Post by **nut** » Wed. Jan. 18, 2023 4:03 pm

I see more generation rates in the 10 cents and change range now with long terms and $0 cancellation fee. That is a good sign.