Coalnewbies solar array

hotblast1357 · Post by **hotblast1357** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 10:36 am

And hopefully EVERYTHING in your house is electric so that you are fully benefiting from the meter spinning backwards! Including all electric heat! In my eyes that’s the ONLY way a grid fed solar system makes any sense at all.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 10:59 am

hotblast1357 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 10:36 am
And hopefully EVERYTHING in your house is electric so that you are fully benefiting from the meter spinning backwards! Including all electric heat! In my eyes that’s the ONLY way a grid fed solar system makes any sense at all.

Lots of truth there...

Jgib4 · Post by **Jgib4** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 11:23 am

windyhill4.2 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 10:25 am
How much is the monthly lease ???
$78/month electric bill for your house... my electric bill is usually $ 150-160/month.. summer time with AC can go up to $ 240/month...

WAIT !! Don't jump to conclusions yet !!

My bill is from the 1 meter that includes my house & my full time repair shop business which is open for 56 hrs/week. Yes, i use AC in my shop too.

SO.... if i split my last bill in 1/2 @ $160 = $80... no lease payments here. That of course is me assuming that my house is consuming as much as my shop does.

I only pay 6.5 cents/kwh + all the fees = I think around $.11/kwh total.

I assume since you think paying a lease + $78/month for electric is a bargain..you must have MUCH higher electric rates there than we do in my area.

No lease payment. We buy our energy through the solar compa y instead of bge now. They just charge a lower rate per kwh. I thought it was to good to be true to. Had it a year next month and it’s been fantastic

Starting Out · Post by **Starting Out** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 11:27 am

From reading this, all I have to add is, to each his own. Some like coal, some like oil some like solar and it's hard to convince the other they are wrong.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 11:28 am

Jgib4 wrote: ↑
Sat. Dec. 23, 2017 9:39 pm
We got sollar last year from a company that leases you the panels and sells the energy to you at a cheaper rate. When we moved to our new house 3 years ago our electric bills doubled and tripled some months. Since solar it cut all those in half. I’m not a hippie just cheap lol and this was the best option for electric. We didn’t pay a dime for the panels. My electric bill last month was $78.

You posted here that they (lease) the panels to you ??

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 11:51 am

From reading this, all I have to add is, to each his own. Some like coal, some like oil some like solar and it's hard to convince the other they are wrong.

It may be better in the tropics of MD

I have looked into it in great detail, many neighbors have it and it sucks it's that simple. Do you really think I would hang out with these clowns if there was an option ...... hahahahahhaha, I slay myself. Yes, I have tried it for DHW . sucks there to.

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Jgib4 · Post by **Jgib4** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:07 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 11:28 am
You posted here that they (lease) the panels to you ??

It’s a lease because there is a contract. But there is no monthly payment outside of the energy you use for your house. It works for us because the only power company we can use is outrageously high and the solar is like half the cost per kWh which is why it cut our bills down.
For me I just try and find ways of saving money and this was a easy option.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:11 pm

OTOH, I could join my neighbor in a nice Xmas wood fire burn in, damn I missed the best part. You see I am flexible and this is after it settled down, I do have a 50 pound bag of soda ready.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:16 pm

coalnewbie wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:11 pm
OTOH, I could join my neighbor in a nice Xmas wood fire burn in, damn I missed the best part. You see I am flexible and this is after it settled down, I do have a 50 pound bag of soda ready.

I remember those days when my place looked worse than that from the OWB..

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:17 pm

Jgib4 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:07 pm
It’s a lease because there is a contract. But there is no monthly payment outside of the energy you use for your house. It works for us because the only power company we can use is outrageously high and the solar is like half the cost per kWh which is why it cut our bills down.
For me I just try and find ways of saving money and this was a easy option.

Down there in Maryland you are paying ? $.35/kwh ??

Jgib4 · Post by **Jgib4** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:49 pm

coalnewbie wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 12:11 pm
OTOH, I could join my neighbor in a nice Xmas wood fire burn in, damn I missed the best part. You see I am flexible and this is after it settled down, I do have a 50 pound bag of soda ready.

Lol I’ll see if I can get a pic after I fire it up this morning

Jgib4 · Post by **Jgib4** » Sun. Dec. 24, 2017 1:45 pm

To windy on the hill to get a good pic of the smoke when it first took off but you can get a good laugh at the solar system working along side coal

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 12:10 pm

Nobody is laughing but to me a serious point is that those solar panels may get dirty from the chimney smoke. I have noticed that during calm winds here fumes from a coal fire can drift downwards and is very acidic. Are you sure that install is not going to suffer corrosion?

Jgib4 · Post by **Jgib4** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 1:19 pm

coalnewbie wrote: ↑
Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 12:10 pm
Nobody is laughing but to me a serious point is that those solar panels may get dirty from the chimney smoke. I have noticed that during calm winds here fumes from a coal fire can drift downwards and is very acidic. Are you sure that install is not going to suffer corrosion?

They are covered by the company for the next 20 years. They knew what I am burning when it was installed. I specifically asked about what would happen if it needed to be replaced.

Uglysquirrel · Post by **Uglysquirrel** » Sat. Dec. 30, 2017 1:36 pm

One question I ask at solar install selling displays is who guarantees the integrity/durability of the panels/system/system resolution labor for the contract's 15-20-25 years post install if your company goes out of business...and if so, does the State that approves these solar contractors require an transfer to a new solar installer? No answers ..................don't want to talk about that...

IMO there will be great maintenance opportunities in another 5-10 years when these panels's dozens of in-series connectors start corroding or depending on the system, underpanel fires especially during max electrical production in the summer. Whoever pays, working on a 10-15kw system on a 12/12 pitch mansion
will not be cheap. Your house insurance cost may be affected as well.

The only way I'd do this solar stuff at my house is an on ground system with no holes in my roof.

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