Antique globe stove vs. base heater
Hello, new to coal stoves. Apparently a base burner is the most efficient coal stove? How is an antique globe stove in comparison? I really prefer the looks of a globe stove but if they are not very usefull I won't buy one. Thanx.
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Paging mntbugy - the globe master.
Welcome Randy. mntbugy has a bunch of globes and base heaters and can answer your questions.
Paul
Welcome Randy. mntbugy has a bunch of globes and base heaters and can answer your questions.
Paul
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Globe stoves can hold their own against the square and classic baseburners. If they have the hump/bustle in the back. The first version of an indirect back pipe. The exhaust goes down the left side, across the bottom then up the right side then out the chimney.
IF you can find a full revertible flue kind. That the exhaust goes down the left side, under ash pan area, up the right side, then up chimney pipe. Might just beat the square and classic kind. Don't have one of them yet, to compare too.
I have one with the hump in the back. It has the same stove and stack temp as the Art Garland classic style.
The fire pots can be very thin on the 1870 early 1880 models. Should have refactory in pot to keep from glowing red at medium/high temps and higher. Later 1880's have one piece, thicker firepots. Glowing red while in use is less, but refactory could be a plus.
Plain direct draft styles work good also. Just have a higher stack temp. NO WOOD BURNING in any mica stove.
More for center of the room installation. Against one wall is ok, but wall might get hot. I don't recommend for corner install. 2 hot walls and poor air flow around stove.
Any Round,Square,Classic mica baseburner will blow the doors off a baseheater. Heat just leaves the mica stoves.
Search topic : Royal Glow or Auction finds for pics and stove/stack numbers.
IF you can find a full revertible flue kind. That the exhaust goes down the left side, under ash pan area, up the right side, then up chimney pipe. Might just beat the square and classic kind. Don't have one of them yet, to compare too.
I have one with the hump in the back. It has the same stove and stack temp as the Art Garland classic style.
The fire pots can be very thin on the 1870 early 1880 models. Should have refactory in pot to keep from glowing red at medium/high temps and higher. Later 1880's have one piece, thicker firepots. Glowing red while in use is less, but refactory could be a plus.
Plain direct draft styles work good also. Just have a higher stack temp. NO WOOD BURNING in any mica stove.
More for center of the room installation. Against one wall is ok, but wall might get hot. I don't recommend for corner install. 2 hot walls and poor air flow around stove.
Any Round,Square,Classic mica baseburner will blow the doors off a baseheater. Heat just leaves the mica stoves.
Search topic : Royal Glow or Auction finds for pics and stove/stack numbers.
Here are a couple of the type I like the looks of, I assume they are the earliest kind with no heated draft circulation chambers?
Was planning on installing one in front of an old fireplace hearth set in a stone wall. Thanx for info, I'm starting to understand the differences.
Was planning on installing one in front of an old fireplace hearth set in a stone wall. Thanx for info, I'm starting to understand the differences.
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Setting on fireplace hearth might be tricky.
You would have to pipe exhaust down enough to get into fireplace opening. Set on floor in front of hearth easier but takes up more floor space.
First pic is a early plain direct draft.
Second pic is a girls doll house stove.
You would have to pipe exhaust down enough to get into fireplace opening. Set on floor in front of hearth easier but takes up more floor space.
First pic is a early plain direct draft.
Second pic is a girls doll house stove.
Yes, on top and extending over old brick hearth with a granite slab, I should have been more clear. Fireplace mantel long gone, opening bricked up, chimney's still in good shape.
Second pic is actually a real stove, ; 48" tall, 1870's with some breaks in the castings.
Sounds like I could heat a large room with tall ceilings and no insulation on the stone walls with this type. Thanx
Second pic is actually a real stove, ; 48" tall, 1870's with some breaks in the castings.
Sounds like I could heat a large room with tall ceilings and no insulation on the stone walls with this type. Thanx
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Meant last pic was doll house. 1st &2nd pics are the same, been for sale a long time.
Might have trouble heating 1200sqft with a 12 inch diameter firepot. 14 inch better.
Saw a French globe stove sell Wendsday, busted up, incomplete for $1000 plus 6% sales tax then 20% buyers premium. WAY over priced.
Good shape,complete, with good nickel plating. Can be had for $300 or LESS.
Might have trouble heating 1200sqft with a 12 inch diameter firepot. 14 inch better.
Saw a French globe stove sell Wendsday, busted up, incomplete for $1000 plus 6% sales tax then 20% buyers premium. WAY over priced.
Good shape,complete, with good nickel plating. Can be had for $300 or LESS.
Yeah, I meant 3rd pic is an actual stove,(really)! I double posted that first Spears stove accidentally. The gold colored (flash rust) stove is the one with some broke cast...but I like it. I won't be relying on coal stove for only heat, also a ground source heat pump, wood stove and a ng radiant wall plaque heater scattered through the house.
PS, was the James Spears stove company of highest quality? I hadn't heard of them until seeing this one listed.
PS, was the James Spears stove company of highest quality? I hadn't heard of them until seeing this one listed.
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Spears was a good quality. Most all are good quality, just some makers better than others.
I don't care for the flip down doors kind. They're usually warped and don't seal tight for use. I like right hand swing doors with twist latch.
These might be for sale?? $3500 and up restored.
I don't care for the flip down doors kind. They're usually warped and don't seal tight for use. I like right hand swing doors with twist latch.
These might be for sale?? $3500 and up restored.
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Couple more. Last pic, someone forgot to take swing top to platers.
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Small size globes with plain looking decorations in direct draft burn features could be had in the low $2k range restored. Bigger more fancy looks or extra rare and extra exhaust paths more $$. Some are 5k and UP.
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And as we all know some unrestored Globe stoves are 8K plus
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