Identify newly purchased stove
New to the forum and to coal stoves. I purchased this stove today and I'm doing research trying to determine its origin. Any information would be helpful and surely educational for me. I intend to use it in my workshop for heat but know it needs some work before I will trust it.
I can post better photos if needed. I can't find any identifying marks on it. The shaker appears to be in good shape. It's missing the bottom door but I can fashion one from cold rolled steel. The damper system is missing altogether, not that I'll need that in my application, but it would be nice to be able to restore it.
Thank you in advance. Steve
I can post better photos if needed. I can't find any identifying marks on it. The shaker appears to be in good shape. It's missing the bottom door but I can fashion one from cold rolled steel. The damper system is missing altogether, not that I'll need that in my application, but it would be nice to be able to restore it.
Thank you in advance. Steve
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Welcome to the forum ! What you have is a chicken brooder stove.
It's missing the thermostat control arm, the primary air damper, linkages, and wafer thermostats along with the ash door cover.
Paulie
It's missing the thermostat control arm, the primary air damper, linkages, and wafer thermostats along with the ash door cover.
Paulie
Thank you Paulie for your quick reply. I wondered why it was not as ornate as most other stoves I've seen. Don't need all that fancy stuff for the biddies I guess.
Having this information helped narrow my search for information but still not much out there. From what I have been able to find I think that the identifying marks I'm missing may have been on the ash door cover. That would have gone on the larger rectangular opening at the bottom, yes? Would there have been a tray incorporated into that or any ash tray at all?
Where would the 'primary damper' have gone, the small square opening to the left of the ash door?
I wonder if there are any forums that specialize in brooder stoves? Any ideas on where I might find the missing parts (or at least pictures of them) for this stove?
I did find this post you made last year on the "Old Sears Stove" thread with photos of an identical stove. Is that one you owned?
Post by Pauliewog - Old Sears Stove
Thanks again,
Steve
Having this information helped narrow my search for information but still not much out there. From what I have been able to find I think that the identifying marks I'm missing may have been on the ash door cover. That would have gone on the larger rectangular opening at the bottom, yes? Would there have been a tray incorporated into that or any ash tray at all?
Where would the 'primary damper' have gone, the small square opening to the left of the ash door?
I wonder if there are any forums that specialize in brooder stoves? Any ideas on where I might find the missing parts (or at least pictures of them) for this stove?
I did find this post you made last year on the "Old Sears Stove" thread with photos of an identical stove. Is that one you owned?
Post by Pauliewog - Old Sears Stove
Thanks again,
Steve
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What Pauliewog said.
A Buckeye brooder stove.
Missing control arms on ebay $30.
Missing thermal wafers, Stromberg chickens might have them.
Missing lower door, maybe Ebay. Can make your own.
Control arms and thermal wafers control the stove temps.
A Buckeye brooder stove.
Missing control arms on ebay $30.
Missing thermal wafers, Stromberg chickens might have them.
Missing lower door, maybe Ebay. Can make your own.
Control arms and thermal wafers control the stove temps.
Thank you for your input mtnbugy. Paulie only said brooder which threw me into a new research cycle. I did see that he showed photos of one like mine in another thread but haven't heard back on whether he knows the manufacturer of that one.
I also saw the control arm listing on Ebay for $30 but wasn't sure if it would fit my stove. Using that as a hint, when I looked at images for the Buckeye Brooder I didn't see any that look like the one I have pictured in my OP. All the Buckeye stoves have some castings or identifying marks on them and all appeared to be joined more toward the middle os the stove. Mine does not have any markings and is joined at the top.
I did purchase the thermal wafers. They're readily available on Amazon.
All this is likely for naught anyway because the hinges and other attachment points on my stove are rusted away.
BTW - what's your favorite trick to break the rust on the century old bolts without breaking the through rods? (probably not the right terminology but I'm new to this fascinating world of antique cast iron)
I also saw the control arm listing on Ebay for $30 but wasn't sure if it would fit my stove. Using that as a hint, when I looked at images for the Buckeye Brooder I didn't see any that look like the one I have pictured in my OP. All the Buckeye stoves have some castings or identifying marks on them and all appeared to be joined more toward the middle os the stove. Mine does not have any markings and is joined at the top.
I did purchase the thermal wafers. They're readily available on Amazon.
All this is likely for naught anyway because the hinges and other attachment points on my stove are rusted away.
BTW - what's your favorite trick to break the rust on the century old bolts without breaking the through rods? (probably not the right terminology but I'm new to this fascinating world of antique cast iron)
Update: The stove I have is a "Dandy No: 395" manufactured by "Newton Giant Incubator Company" in Springfield, Ohio. This company was owned and operated by Buckeye Incubator Company, also in Springfield Ohio.
As I guessed, all of that information was cast into the missing ash door cover (see photo). Using this new information I was successful in finding more images that were like my stove. It also encouraged me to purchase the control arm and linkage Ebay listing.
More to come.
As I guessed, all of that information was cast into the missing ash door cover (see photo). Using this new information I was successful in finding more images that were like my stove. It also encouraged me to purchase the control arm and linkage Ebay listing.
More to come.
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Buckeye,Dandy,Jamesway were the better brooder stoves. Made 1905ish till after WWII I think.
Wire brush threads and nut good, soak with pentatrating oil. Wait a day or so. Vise grip on long connecting rod, wrench on square nut. Probable snap off any how. Applying heat helps also.
The lower door on some heaters swivel up, on a single pin. Like some car doors. Looks like your door just sets in the frame, slide in?.
Control arm goes in square notch, lower left side. Cable attaches to arm, then up to top of heater at that sliding damper. Looks like mini frying pan thing. Attach cable the the handle part.
Wire brush threads and nut good, soak with pentatrating oil. Wait a day or so. Vise grip on long connecting rod, wrench on square nut. Probable snap off any how. Applying heat helps also.
The lower door on some heaters swivel up, on a single pin. Like some car doors. Looks like your door just sets in the frame, slide in?.
Control arm goes in square notch, lower left side. Cable attaches to arm, then up to top of heater at that sliding damper. Looks like mini frying pan thing. Attach cable the the handle part.
I got everything disassembled today and began the cleaning. The 1/4-20 x 24” through bolts were nearly rusted in two. Couldn’t find a source for replacements so I’ve threaded some 1/4” rod and fashioned my own.
Couldn’t find a “Dandy” cover so I’m hoping the Buckeye cover I’ve ordered will fit.
It looks like there may have been a gasket between the top and main firebox. Does anyone know if there should be a gasket or if it was just put together with furnace cement?
I found that 5” pipe fits the oval opening just right (with a little cement to seal the crack).
Couldn’t find a “Dandy” cover so I’m hoping the Buckeye cover I’ve ordered will fit.
It looks like there may have been a gasket between the top and main firebox. Does anyone know if there should be a gasket or if it was just put together with furnace cement?
I found that 5” pipe fits the oval opening just right (with a little cement to seal the crack).
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If not in a hurry watch auctions for spare parts. Im 1000 miles from anthracite mines and still see at least one a year at sales. It seems like they are always in rough shape here, but considering where they were, in damp poop environments, then it makes sense.
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No gaskets. Just furnace cement in all joints.
Do not tighten bolt much more than a quarter turn past finger tight. Even the long rod bolts.
Do not tighten bolt much more than a quarter turn past finger tight. Even the long rod bolts.