Pre shaker coal stoves

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Post by Cdon2948 » Tue. Nov. 02, 2021 12:00 pm

Hi everyone, from time to time ive brought up pictures of older stoves that look like they should burn coal but seem to lack a lot of features we associate with models from the latw 1880s-1900s. Or the stoves that don't have shakers are labeled as wood burners. Well with the help of a friend of mine who is also involved with restoration we found an 1871 catalogue and boy it has been useful. In the attached picture you can see that the coal burning model has the type of grate that most people assume is for wood burners where the wood burner has a flat grate. Draft controls are almost non existant and they are missing most of our modern indicators or coal stoves. Im adding the link to the whole catalogue because its a great refence. Happy burning everyone!

https://archive.org/details/JLMottIronWorks1871

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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Nov. 02, 2021 3:11 pm

Nice find C--interesting stuff. :)

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Wed. Nov. 03, 2021 9:32 pm

Interesting! Thanks.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 6:43 am

Probably for bituminous coal.


 
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Post by Cdon2948 » Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 10:39 am

hotblast1357 wrote:
Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 6:43 am
Probably for bituminous coal.
I wouldn't be surprised, these stoves are kind of an in-between coal fireplaces and later stoves.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 1:01 pm

Nice find, C.

Not sure when coal shaker grates started. The earliest I've seen is Wilson had a 1879 Glenwood range he cooked on for awhile. Used both wood and coal in it. There's pix of it way back in this section's threads, and if I remember, also in the Cookin' With Coal thread.

Some neighbor's Victorian houses, built in the later Victorian period, had open grill fire places for coal. No shaker ability, just scrape through the grill openings with a firepoker. And as far as I know, only anthracite was sold here (my house belonged to the Village coal dealers).

Some members here have been burning anthracite in that type open grill. They said start by getting a good hot wood fire, then a coal firebed can be built up. Then it burns fine.

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Post by Cdon2948 » Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 2:21 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Thu. Nov. 04, 2021 1:01 pm
Nice find, C.

Not sure when coal shaker grates started. The earliest I've seen is Wilson had a 1879 Glenwood range he cooked on for awhile. Used both wood and coal in it. There's pix of it way back in this section's threads, and if I remember, also in the Cookin' With Coal thread.

Some neighbor's Victorian houses, built in the later Victorian period, had open grill fire places for coal. No shaker ability, just scrape through the grill openings with a firepoker. And as far as I know, only anthracite was sold here (my house belonged to the Village coal dealers).

Some members here have been burning anthracite in that type open grill. They said start by getting a good hot wood fire, then a coal firebed can be built up. Then it burns fine.

Paul
I nabbed a late 1880s sunshine franklin at auction that i will be restoring for my parlor and thats exactly whats going to happen when i fire it up. I honestly have to do that with my Penn Franklin anyhow as the shaker does a good job with the center and front but doesnt really do much for the rear of the firebox. I end up poking around and clearing the ash from pretty much every angle you can think of.

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