Sougland Excelsior 183

 
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Post by LeoinRI » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 5:11 am

Success! My search for a fireplace “insert” which began over a year ago has ended. My initial failure to find an insert in the US prompted me to look at a few shops in the UK. Finally a web site in France led me to Harrie van Gennip and his son Teun in Amsterdam who had this Excelsior stove made by Sougland Foundaries in France ~1910.

Marketed in the 1910 catalog as a “Foyer Americain” (American Hearth =?= Franklin Fireplace) the size is ~29H x 21W x 17.5D weight 200 lbs, with a 4” (97mm) ID flue. The “firebox” has an 8” diameter. The depth of the coal bed from the bottom grate to the middle grate is 8.5”. The stove can be loaded to the feed door on the top for a total height of 15”. It exhausts to the back via 2 channels on each side between the middle and upper grates. Primary air is controlled by the nickeled dial on the ash door. The shaker lever also controls the secondary air, to the right is completely closed, to the left fully open. The stove is similar in design to the Deville DPF 600, and the Faure & Revin Gallia described by members “Georgelap” and “Cdon2948”. The stove was marketed to have a “visible and continuous” fire (loaded 2x or 3x/day). Although equipped with a handle, there are no wheels to permit moving the stove from room to room. According to the 1910 catalog the stove was available in 3 sizes and a variety of enamel, nickel, ceramic, and copper trims. The black enamel is in very good condition considering the age of the stove.

Until cold weather sets in and I have some coal consumption statistics I can only estimate the maximum heat output at around 15,000 BTU/Hr based on the flue size and also using the formula grate area * 300 BTU/square inch.

I’ll post more photos when the installation is finished and it turns cold enough for a continuous fire.

Question for the group: There is a spacing of 0.6” between the bottom grates. Can I use my stock of nut coal or should I find a supplier of stove size?

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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 7:16 am

I believe my good friend Pierre uses either nut or stove.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:12 am

Wow, that's a pretty stove ! Congrats.

That grate spacing will work fine for nut or stove coal.

Depending on what's available locally, it might be a bit too big a gap to work as well for smaller sizes ???? But, it's worth buying a bag to try. If smaller than nut size falls through you can always mix it with the nut coal, so it doesn't go to waste.

Depending on draft strength of the chimney, and how well the stove heats for you, or needs to run between fillings, it's nice to have leeway in coal size to fit the situation.

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Post by Holdencoal » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:18 am

Glad to see you made it past customs.

 
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Post by LeoinRI » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:33 am

Customs did accept the invoice description and let it pass duty free as an antique > 100 years. The $84 crate was taxed at $2.32. The customs broker cost me $230.

 
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Post by LeoinRI » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:37 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:12 am
Wow, that's a pretty stove ! Congrats.

That grate spacing will work fine for nut or stove coal.

Depending on what's available locally, it might be a bit too big a gap to work as well for smaller sizes ???? But, it's worth buying a bag to try. If smaller than nut size falls through you can always mix it with the nut coal, so it doesn't go to waste.

Depending on draft strength of the chimney, and how well the stove heats for you, or needs to run between fillings, it's nice to have leeway in coal size to fit the situation.

Paul

Thanks for the compliment and info.

Leo

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Sep. 19, 2020 10:47 am

Your welcome Leo.

Remember, we love stove pix. Please post more pix when you get it set up and running. I'm sure it will look even prettier with a glow in the firebed. :yes:

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Post by Wal » Wed. Sep. 23, 2020 9:30 am

Beautiful stove

 
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Post by LeoinRI » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 7:55 am

Now that we’ve had some cold weather I’ve been able to assess my new stove. I’m able to keep a continuous fire despite shortcomings of my learning the shakedown system. Ash removal needs to be done by poking from above and riddling from below in addition to the usual shaking. There is more than expected amount of heat radiated out the back. I’ve burned 80 lbs in 3 days or about 13,600 BTU/hour input. The stove provides a nice glow with blue ladies for my living room. My thanks to a member of this forum who cautioned me about getting a larger insert that would need to be continuously throttle back to black rocks. It is a keeper 😊.

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Post by KingCoal » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 8:01 am

WOW !! what a COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL stove.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 11:08 am

Looks really good L--PURTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 11:59 am

Looks beautiful, Leo. Congrats !

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Post by gardener » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 3:38 pm

Stunning find Leo! and thanks for sharing photos.
Looks like it will be eye candy for you for many years ahead.

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 6:25 pm

Congratulations Leo ! That's one to be proud of, and well worth the wait. :clap:

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Post by scalabro » Mon. Nov. 02, 2020 6:42 pm

Stunning piece of functional history for sure...gorgeous!


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