changing my computer wallpaper to a wood range

 
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Post by gardener » Fri. Jun. 26, 2020 11:28 am

For a long time I had jsmlesotho's New Parlor Heater set in his refaced fireplace set as my computer desktop wallpaper. It warms my heart how beautiful a setup it is. Since changing employers I have been keeping an eye out for a replacement for my new work desktop. I am sorry to let everyone know it appears be a wood burning range... I think :?: :lol:

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Is this for real? Looks like someone's Frankenstein's monster. I am laughing so hard I have tears, though I am not ridiculing it, it just makes me smile.


 
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Post by gardener » Fri. Jun. 26, 2020 3:41 pm

I looked through a Cole's 1903 heater brochure/catalog, only twenty pages, nothing but wood heaters, similar to the base of this range.

 
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Post by gardener » Sat. Jun. 27, 2020 1:45 pm

I misspoke, not range, but cook stove, though the name on the stove says "The Cole's Patent High Oven Range". Seller lists it as wood or coal :?:

I was rooting for it to be someone's Frankenstein's monster, mostly cause I like projects and that seems like a neat project, albeit not one that would end up aesthetically pleasing. I noticed in the photo what looks like a professional assembly so I did more searches and found others. These first two probably are the same stove, that third definitely looks like another stove, so Cole's Manufacturing probably designed it this way. I did notice during our trip through parts of North Dakota and seeing antique stoves at the various places we stopped, many were Cole's and those all had a sort of unique Cole's character that seems to me to fit with this sort of amalgamation of a cook stove. Sort of lost some of its appeal thinking it was designed that way, but it still makes me smile.
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 29, 2020 8:29 am

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saw this while searching online, seems to be a modern layout of the same configuration



Still pondering why seller says it is capable of burning coal.
I thought these sort of rolled steel barrels without a separate ash pan door were only wood burning.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Jun. 29, 2020 8:37 am

I'm thinkin they are G.

 
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Post by LeoinRI » Mon. Jun. 29, 2020 9:01 am

My experience is that many sellers are "mis-informed" about what they are selling.

 
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Post by gardener » Wed. Jul. 01, 2020 9:06 am

I found in a Cole's catalog the following:
"The Hot Blast draft and Air-Tight construction also make it possible to maintain a slow, steady heat with wood, corn cobs, chips, or any light fuel, and to hold fire over night even with corn cobs.
No change of fixtures is necessary on our stove for burning hard coal, coke, wood or light fuel."
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a cut away is illustrated showing the internal grate (on their coal stove product line)

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Apparently these stoves did not have a dedicated ash pan door or ash pan. Though I noticed in the image I posted earlier from alamy in which that cook stove looks to have an ash pan door.
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I noticed on the cook stove this thread is about, it has a slide on the cook stop that probably is the air control / slide for the this hot air blast tube.
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The above description mentions hard and soft coal.

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They do have stoves of similar appearance later in the catalog with the label that says "For Wood or Any Fuel Except Coal".


 
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Post by gardener » Thu. Jul. 02, 2020 9:00 am

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the description says that the flue pipe divides in two at the bottom of the oven and returns to one pipe at the top in order to distribute the heat of the flue gas to all parts of the elevated oven

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saw this last night while continuing to look through an Excelsior catalog (1915-1916)
apparently not the unique configuration I assumed it was

 
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Post by gardener » Fri. Jul. 10, 2020 3:49 pm

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Saw this one on Facebook, clearly someone's project with all the welds. I am guessing it was originally a furnace. Though the Cole's coal cookstove, has my smile. Hope I can find a Cole's catalog with it listed and described.

 
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Post by gardener » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 8:17 am

Three posts up, I had found in a Cole's catalog illustrations showing their coal grate/setup.
Found this advertisement last night.

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A nice view of the coal grate. It would be interesting to see how it is suspended, but that probably would require the stove to be disassembled.
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Seller posted a photo with a good view of the coal grate with the over the fire air tube.

The reason for my post concerns the newspaper advertisement the seller found in the Omaha Daily Bee archive.
What does mean by "Base Heat with soft coal." and "Holds Fire like a Base Burner." ???
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Cole's "Original" Hot Blast give even heat with soft coal. Cleanliness with soft coal. Base Heat with soft coal. 1 1/4 tons soft coal equals 1 ton hard coal. $4 Does the work of $9 Holds Fire like a Base Burner. COLE'S HOT BLAST only stove made to give these results.


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 9:35 am

"soft coal" is Bit coal and the air tube ending over the firebed is a secondary air feed common to many early Bit stoves. It's to help burn off the volatile gases that bit coal has a lot more of than "hard coal" anthracite. You often see "hot blast" used with the name of these type stoves.

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Post by gardener » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 9:50 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
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"soft coal" is Bit coal and the air tube ending over the firebed is a secondary air feed common to many early Bit stoves. It's to help burn off the volatile gases that bit coal has a lot more of than "hard coal" anthracite. You often see "hot blast" used with the name of these type stoves.

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I guess I am more confused by "Base Heat" and what about a baseburner are they referring to that it holds heat longer?
I have no experience with a baseburner, so I have nothing to compare it to.
The only thing I have used so far is one of the potbelly stoves I have.
I thought longer burn times were more a function of how deep the bed can be piled, and if you have a magazine.
My understanding with a baseburner is it holds the exhaust gasses longer so the gas that finally leaves is lower temperature, could it be somehow longer burning because more heat is extract requiring a less raging fire in the pot?

Or is it just marketing hype?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 9:59 am

Base burner usually means some amount of exhaust is directed down the outsides of the firepot to keep combustion temps up for better burn efficiency. Like suspended pot stoves and some mica stoves.

If it has flues to direct the exhaust down under the ash pan area before leaving the stove, then it's a base heater, like a GW #6 & 8.

I can't see if the ones in your pictures has either exhaust system.

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Post by gardener » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 10:42 am

I will have to look in that catalog again, see if they mention anything about the exhaust system.
The seller of that 168 does not have a photo that I saw showing the exhaust,
though there does appear to be some sort of flue modification on at least two models, the 15E and 115.
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No. 15E

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I can see similar flue modification on some of the other Cole's models that I cannot make out the model numbers for.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 19, 2020 10:49 am

Without seeing where those flue castings lead inside the stove, no way to tell what they are for.

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