Sexton's 1892 Grand Heater

 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Jun. 04, 2020 2:30 pm

Use a 12 or 14 or 16 mm twelve corner socket and rachet. What ever fits the best.

Usually works quicker then a box/open ended wrench.

An antique square socket works, but dirt makes them hard to get on/off the nut.


 
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Post by gardener » Thu. Jun. 04, 2020 4:00 pm

Thank you, I will try that.
May have to buy a 12 point socket set, I have only bought 6 point sockets for the past two decades... I get away without many tools cause I rarely do anything manual :oops:

Wondered whether there was a flex head open ended wrench, but a quick search only shows flex head ratcheting wrenches. Anyways the angle is really steep doubt it would so anything, socket is likely the best option.

 
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Post by franco b » Thu. Jun. 04, 2020 4:21 pm

8 point sockets are for square nuts.

 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Jun. 04, 2020 6:27 pm

G, save the special bent bolts for patterns for new replacement bolts.

 
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Post by gardener » Fri. Jun. 05, 2020 7:56 am

franco b wrote: 8 point sockets are for square nuts.
forgot about those, thanks
mntbugy wrote: G, save the special bent bolts for patterns for new replacement bolts.
will do, I haven't thrown anything away yet, even the crud, figure I will have to sift through it if there is any broken pieces I cannot find

 
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Post by tcalo » Sat. Jun. 06, 2020 10:32 am

Keep up the good work!!! Can’t wait to see it back up and running.

 
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 8:15 am

tcalo wrote:
Sat. Jun. 06, 2020 10:32 am
Keep up the good work!!! Can’t wait to see it back up and running.
Thank you, definitely looking forward to it to.
I have never done this before, but I imagine that disassembly is easier than the fixup.


 
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 8:29 am

franco b wrote:
Thu. Jun. 04, 2020 4:21 pm
8 point sockets are for square nuts.
I found a number of 8 point sockets for sale, but none as a set. At least yet.
I did find a spline socket set, got that ordered, it will be a while before it arrives.
In the meantime I bought this,
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 9:10 am

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Used the Gator Grip on the two bolts that were holding shelf piece the grate sets on.
The bolts feed through the piece, but sides were already broken.
When I applied torque to the socket wrench, it was the crud that was between the bolt and the piece that separated. The two bolts are still attached the lower part of the stove. Because both sides were broken I could lift the whole shelf/grate out at that point.... none of this probably makes sense.
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Post by franco b » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 9:19 am

Vibration and impact are your friends when removing rusted bolts.

 
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 9:25 am

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The right face piece, that holds the right two doors, appears to have a flange for a bolt, which there is a bolt holding this one down. Recollecting the left face piece with how it just slid out, I realized it too had a flange but it is broken off an still attached to the stove.

This bolt holding the right face down took a lot of effort to get free. Aside from the corrosion it felt like the previous installer snugged it tight.

I have not attempted to free the bolt on the left face flange yet.
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The middle face piece is lifted off and set forward on the stove in this following picture. The face piece has no corresponding bolt tab, and looks like it was cast without one. Perhaps when I clean up the piece, maybe a clean break will be exposed.
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Post by gardener » Mon. Jun. 08, 2020 9:32 am

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The air covers that fit around the shaker handle. The bolts and nuts were not corroded and unscrewed with ease.
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Confused how to get the slide off the bolts once the nuts were removed. With a little pressure the bolts pushed back and the two pieces that make up the slide fell off.
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Post by gardener » Tue. Jun. 09, 2020 9:03 am

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Once I got the remaining part of the unit up on a makeshift workbench, and looking at the two bolts holding on the footrest, was easy to unscrew the nuts, just needed access to the slot in the bolt to hold it. The nuts are in a nested position under the lip of the stove making it difficult to get leverage. Footrest removed.
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Then realized the remaining shaker handle slide component did not have anything obstructing it, so I removed it.
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Post by gardener » Tue. Jun. 09, 2020 9:22 am

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Two more bolts on either side of the front, holding the bottom and next layer up together.
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Attempting to unscrew the nuts snapped off the bottom portion of the bolt. I did not heat these up first, perhaps if I had maybe they would have not snapped. After removing those still something holding on either side toward the back.
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Found another pair of bolts. In the above picture show two next to each other, though one is leftover portion of the bolt holding on one of the vents if I remember correctly, this bottom portion is stuck. Used the reciprocating saw on the back two.
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Stove is apart, need to finish getting the crud swept from the bottom piece and discover whether it is one big piece or two or three together.

There are a number of parts that are deteriorated from rust, I will get pictures of those. I noticed on the house there was no rain cap on the chimney. Seller said the occupant passed away some 17 years earlier and the house sat empty since then. They were set to demolish the house.

 
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Post by gardener » Tue. Jun. 09, 2020 9:28 am

gardener wrote:
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Friday evening, brushed off the ash from the tabs holding the magazine top.
Turned out the screws are for holding the middle section of the magazine to the top section, and the top section of the magazine rests on three tabs in stove. I lifted top/mid section magazine out, rather heavy.

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I got to thinking last night. I recall back when I was reading through the threads of this forum, there were mentions of warped parts from over firing. So what about parts like the two half circle hanging firepot pieces, if those warped there is hardly any space between them, they would be stuck in place. What do people restoring a stove do in a situation like that?

... carefully cut the halves into quarters? hope to use furnace cement to fill in the gap and hold them inplace if they are reused?


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