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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Mar. 04, 2020 4:50 pm

I have to say, I am feeling the first time pressure. I added coal and left some red glow showing and the stove dropped from 375 to 200.

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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Mar. 04, 2020 5:16 pm

Opened the spinners a little and MPD full to get the fire back.

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Post by waytomany?s » Wed. Mar. 04, 2020 7:48 pm

Well? Where is it at now?

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Mar. 04, 2020 8:12 pm

It’s holding at 250deg f. Looks like the right side went cold. Is this ok or to cold? I’m too new to want to fill it to the top. I have the MPD at 3/4 closed, bottom air is just slightly opened. However, it’s 38 outside and 71deg in the house which is a split raised ranch with the stove in the finished basement. The farthest bedroom which is over the garage is 68.

I know if I cut holes in the floor for vents it will help the first floor a lot, but I do not want to destroy the hardwood floors i rescued from 40 years of a rug blanket.

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Post by waytomany?s » Wed. Mar. 04, 2020 8:39 pm

I know it's scary to fill it, but unless you go at least 2/3 of the way, it won't keep going. Been there. Open damper until it's going well, it will be last thing to close. More under air more heat. If you panic, close all air and wait it out. Pretty sure you don't need step by step instructions, but if you do, use the search.

 
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Post by KingCoal » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 11:49 am

open mpd to half, open the right spinner another 1/2 turn and see if the fire evens out.

once you get there, fill it up, you'll be glad you did

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 12:12 pm

One other possibility. The right side may not be cleared of ash as well as the left side. Air follows path of least resistance so it will go through the firebed that has less restriction to flow of air in and exhaust out.

Another possibility - if you load a higher concentration of small bits of coal in one section and bigger chunks in another section the small chunks areas will not breath and burn as well as the big chunks areas for the same reason.

One more thing, your rght hand pic at the top of the this page looks like you buried too much of the firebed and stalled the draft. The low temps and slow recoverey would seem to indicate that, too.

When your going to refuel, open the MPD and Primaries for a few minutes and let the stove build up a "heat bank" in the chimney system. That hotter, stronger draft will help prevent stalling the fire when you open the door and let in a blast of cold air and a pile of cold coal, both needing lots of heat to keep the draft going so that all that fresh coal gets burning sooner.

Hard lesson for newbies to learn is trying to refuel quickly often makes the job take longer. Slow down, let the stove and chimney get good and hot before you dump a lot of cold into the system and you'll be done sooner. ;)

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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 2:39 pm

Thank you everyone. If I’m going to learn my hard lessons I prefer to do it with people that are here to support each other.

I shoke down the stove and of course lesson learned I lost half my fire.

As suggested I opened the spinner on the side lost hoping to pull the fire in that direction. We will see. Temp dropped to 100.

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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 4:40 pm

Lost the fire this afternoon. I’ll start a new one Sunday morning when I’m back in town.

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 4:59 pm

Yep, rev that fire up before shaking ash and loading coal. It looked pretty shallow to me, don't be afraid to pile it high :) you'll get it, little learning curve goes with it.

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 6:13 pm

Well it’s going to be 67 on Monday, looks like spring is almost here.

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Mar. 05, 2020 7:06 pm

I did a quick clean out the stove. The ash pan was full to overfilled. I emptied it this morning and then shook it down. I also filled about 1/4 of a 5 gallon of partly used coal.

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Post by waytomany?s » Tue. Mar. 10, 2020 8:57 pm

Are you going to try again? :eh:

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Mar. 11, 2020 2:34 am

I will this weekend. It was 67 this week and the house it warm with nothing.

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Mar. 11, 2020 7:43 pm

Lighted up the stove tonight. Got it nice and hot and piled on the coal.

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