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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:06 pm

Well, another stove added to my collection. A big thanks to Simon for posting it! As luck would have it this stove was literally 5 blocks from my house, I could've walked there. Antique stoves RARELY turn up on Long Island. Solid stove with some minor issues, all which are common for MGO116's. I've always wanted to try out a stove with prismatic grates. I'm quite salty with suspended pot stoves so this should make for a nice comparison.

The famous saying...everything happens for a reason...rings true! I did a day trip snowboarding with a buddy of mine yesterday. I lost my license, minutes later someone returned it to me. Later that day I found a wallet on the mountain, returned the favor and brought it to lost and found. I just walked in the door yesterday evening and logged onto coalpail to get my daily dose. I noticed Simons post about a GMO116 for sale. It was a Facebook marketplace link. Although I do have a Facebook account I rarely use it. I needed my wife's help to navigate the site. Noticed the post was in my town so I replied to it. Short phone call later and plans were set. Funny, although I wasn't looking I would've liked to find a cheap stove with prismatic grates just to try out. In the process I came across a Facebook posting by some old childhood friends regarding the passing of their father. Time to pay some respect. The lord works in mysterious ways.

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Post by scalabro » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:15 pm

You’re even Steven!

It’s amazing what lurks in your backyard 😜

With the hundreds of Victorian era homes within a 10 mile radius of me I always wonder what may be stashed away in the barn or basement 🤯

 
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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:27 pm

Some pics of the stove.

The pot is cracked at the front hump, from my understanding this is quite common for this stove. The rear grate cover has an ear broke off. I would like to get a rear pipe setup anyway. The nickel skirt isn't set up for it, but I'm sure that can be changed. I have to ask, what is the purpose of the two screws in the rear grate cover? The lid under the dome is cracked. The seller tacked it back together. There's a bit of corrosion on the base pan with some spots poking through. I'm sure this can be filled with weld. I was even thinking stove cement, not sure how hot the base pan gets though. I've checked the temp of my suspended pot stoves while running, they stay surprisingly cool. Especially my G109, as this stove is not a full bb. Grates are damn near straight with a slight bend on the two middle ones. Just missing the handle for the grates.

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Post by scalabro » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:31 pm

Call Skip, I bet he has everything in stock!

 
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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:34 pm

The crack on the pot went up and split into a 'Y'. Going to find the ends and stop drill them for now.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:58 pm

tcalo wrote:
Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:27 pm
Some pics of the stove.

The pot is cracked at the front hump, from my understanding this is quite common for this stove. The rear grate cover has an ear broke off. I would like to get a rear pipe setup anyway. The nickel skirt isn't set up for it, but I'm sure that can be changed. I have to ask, what is the purpose of the two screws in the rear grate cover? The lid under the dome is cracked. The seller tacked it back together. There's a bit of corrosion on the base pan with some spots poking through. I'm sure this can be filled with weld. I was even thinking stove cement, not sure how hot the base pan gets though. I've checked the temp of my suspended pot stoves while running, they stay surprisingly cool. Especially my G109, as this stove is not a full bb. Grates are damn near straight with a slight bend on the two middle ones. Just missing the handle for the grates.
Yes, they tend to crack at the screw hole up at the top of that "hump'. But it doesn't seem to be a problem when operating them. I'd drill a small "stopper hole" at the end of the cracks, smear some stove sealer in the cracks and run it.

BTW, Wilson has grates, and the back pipe parts for the 116. He may even have the pipe support base casting if yours doesn't have that add-on casting to go on those two outer screws. Not sure why there are the two inner screws on that rear cover because the cover has nothing to do with supporting the grate frame. With that back pipe, it'll almost crank out as much heat as a GW #6 base heater.

They use a common 3/4 inch triangular socket shaker handle. Those often turn up on eBay for $20.00 or less.

Paul

 
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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 6:18 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 5:58 pm
Yes, they tend to crack at the screw hole up at the top of that "hump'. But it doesn't seem to be a problem when operating them. I'd drill a small "stopper hole" at the end of the cracks, smear some stove sealer in the cracks and run it.
Paul, there's no screw hole at the top of that hump. Just a small tit sticking up, I guess to align the pot and base.

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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 7:04 pm

Stop drilled the ends of the crack. Hopefully this holds up for now. Now...back to the game!

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Post by mntbugy » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 7:18 pm

Good find Tom. What Scott said x2.

 
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Post by D.lapan » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 7:56 pm

I have a few extra shakers for that stove I’ll donate one when your ready just let me know
Dana

 
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Post by tcalo » Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 8:27 pm

D.lapan wrote:
Sun. Feb. 03, 2019 7:56 pm
I have a few extra shakers for that stove I’ll donate one when your ready just let me know
Dana
Awesome...can’t thank you enough!

 
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Post by tcalo » Mon. Feb. 04, 2019 7:16 pm

I found a photo of Wren’s 116 with the same screws in the rear grate cover. Odd???

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Post by mntbugy » Mon. Feb. 04, 2019 8:05 pm

Same thing on my 114.

 
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Post by tcalo » Mon. Feb. 04, 2019 8:07 pm

Now I’m wondering if the rear support for the indirect pipe gets bolted on here somehow?

 
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Post by tcalo » Mon. Feb. 04, 2019 8:13 pm

I will say these oaks are a bit easier to break down than suspended pot stoves.


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