Choosing A Coal Burning Stove for the House
- coaledsweat
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Another good reason for a stoker furnace/boiler. The insurance company looks at them as "conventional appliances." A stove however, is considered a "supplemental device" with added risk.
- jdode
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Is this one? Does it have to be in the basement?coaledsweat wrote: ↑Wed. Jan. 02, 2019 8:25 pmAnother good reason for a stoker furnace/boiler. The insurance company looks at them as "conventional appliances." A stove however, is considered a "supplemental device" with added risk.
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That's a stove. You can put it anywhere as long as it meets fire code specs. Clearences, chimney, etc. A quick Google search shows parts are available at reasonable cost.
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If it had tubing wrapped around it and was hooked up to a water tank that supplied the house, would it, then, be a stoker/boiler?coaledsweat wrote: ↑Thu. Jan. 03, 2019 5:59 amThat's a stove. You can put it anywhere as long as it meets fire code specs. Clearences, chimney, etc. A quick Google search shows parts are available at reasonable cost.
- coaledsweat
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No, it would be a stove with a coil wrapped around it. A boiler has a pressure vessel and controls to make it work safely.
As far as being a stoker, that is a hand fired device. A stoker feeds itself.
As far as being a stoker, that is a hand fired device. A stoker feeds itself.
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And, a "Stoker" means it has some type of automatic coal feed mechanism. Check the descriptions of the first two sections above this one.
Paul
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Oh, thanks guys for the definition of stoker/boiler. I'll take a look at that section. Coal burning is a whole new world.
It's official now. I have 10 months to find the best coal stove and half priced DW Stainless Steel flue on Marketplace.
Today, I bought a gas console heater (with visible blue flames) for the cottage. It even came with the exhaust pipe. Jeez, that thing is twice the depth of the one I've been using for 20 years. My old one is 36x26x12. The visible flame unit that I bought today is 34x31x20; definitely heavy and awkward to lift. I just hope it actually works when it's hooked up to gas. Also, the very dark beige color is just plain ugly; not like the light beige of the one in my den. LOL
Tomorrow, I'll see about painting the stove mat and selling the laundry stove. Originally, the laundry stove was for my camper, and I now, have a lead on a smaller cast iron stove for my camper. It's about 2/3 the size and weight of the laundry stove and should be more manageable. If the laundry stove could be used for a daily heater, I'd keep it. I like the cooking surface and that would come in handy in my future 'shed' home and nomadic life.
I'm still disappointed that the Efel had such a small firebox. It and the dancing blue ladies would've been gorgeous in the living room.
Looks like tomorrow is a whole new day and a whole new set of problems.
It's official now. I have 10 months to find the best coal stove and half priced DW Stainless Steel flue on Marketplace.
Today, I bought a gas console heater (with visible blue flames) for the cottage. It even came with the exhaust pipe. Jeez, that thing is twice the depth of the one I've been using for 20 years. My old one is 36x26x12. The visible flame unit that I bought today is 34x31x20; definitely heavy and awkward to lift. I just hope it actually works when it's hooked up to gas. Also, the very dark beige color is just plain ugly; not like the light beige of the one in my den. LOL
Tomorrow, I'll see about painting the stove mat and selling the laundry stove. Originally, the laundry stove was for my camper, and I now, have a lead on a smaller cast iron stove for my camper. It's about 2/3 the size and weight of the laundry stove and should be more manageable. If the laundry stove could be used for a daily heater, I'd keep it. I like the cooking surface and that would come in handy in my future 'shed' home and nomadic life.
I'm still disappointed that the Efel had such a small firebox. It and the dancing blue ladies would've been gorgeous in the living room.
Looks like tomorrow is a whole new day and a whole new set of problems.
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I've got this in my kitchen. With about 40lbs of nut coal it'll burn 8 - 12 hours keeping one end of my farmhouse around 65°, upstairs and down.
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Where is the warm morning stove located that you decided against?
- jdode
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This one? I think it's still for sale, in Gillespie, IL.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/6866855 ... ct_details
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I'm back and looking for a stove that will burn coal and wood. This is what I found. A reconditioned, probably 90's, Earth Stove. I haven't made the purchase, yet.
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Btw, I sold the Empire natural gas heater for $200. Then, I bought two nat gas unvented heaters for the cottage, until I move in. They were $40 each, so a good deal and kept the cottage warm enough while I wasn't there. The contractor wasn't interested in doing flue work at that time. (Moving in was put on hold for a few years.)
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Does anyone know if this vintage Earth Stove will take coal? It has the rear flue that would work at my present house.
EDIT: I found an online manual and there's no mention of using coal.
EDIT: I found an online manual and there's no mention of using coal.
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I don't see a shaker handle. Are you looking to burn bit or anthracite?
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I can't see the lower front area. Is there a controllable air feed to the area under the grates ? Coal needs its primary air fed to under the firebed. If not, then it's a wood-only stove.
Pictures of the inside would help.
Paul
Pictures of the inside would help.
Paul