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Post by landfried1 » Mon. Nov. 12, 2018 9:33 am

The part that needs repaired also gets plated. Does welding or brazing effect plating?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Nov. 12, 2018 9:47 am

landfried1 wrote:
Mon. Nov. 12, 2018 9:33 am
The part that needs repaired also gets plated. Does welding or brazing effect plating?

Yes, sometimes what rod is used for the weld filler can cause plating to not take, or to blister and peal off at a later date.

I know from having new window frames made for a convertible sedan, that some types of copper/nickel plating processes do not work with some forms of stainless. The fab shop that made the frames screwed up and used stainless instead of plain steel. We didn't find out until I got a call from my plating shop saying no can do. Had to have another set of frames made.

Check with your plating shop first. Some plating shops do welding repairs in-house and might be setup to do cast iron repairs that are compatible with their plating operation. Or they have a welding shop they use.

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Post by archangel_cpj » Mon. Nov. 12, 2018 10:59 pm

Well this is an easy one... It's a bit more money but instead of SS rod use Nickle rod to weld her up...Its the best for cast repair anyway but a bit more money...

 
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Post by Paned » Tue. Nov. 13, 2018 7:25 am

I would just send it out to Mill Lake. Let Brian do the repair since he will do the plating also. He does excellent work.


 
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Post by mntbugy » Tue. Nov. 13, 2018 7:49 am

Brian does nice work. If you are in a hurry send to D&D plating, ship it Monday and back by Friday.

 
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Post by landfried1 » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 8:50 am

Having trouble finding what the finished stove should look like. It is a Germer radiant air blast 224. Not sure what surfaces need plated and what gets painted. Also the shaker needs help but not sure if I need parts or if existing pets can be repaired. Thank you to everybody for all the help.

 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 10:43 am

Missing from picture is one t-handle spinner and two door handles.
Went for nickel plating.

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Post by landfried1 » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 12:12 pm

Is it ok to have the plated parts sand blasted also?


 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 12:33 pm

Yes to sand blasting.

Can not put new nickel over old nickel.

 
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Post by archangel_cpj » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 1:02 pm

Not to sound flip but if its silver plate it the fineal is copper on mine and I like it... looks like nearly everything there gets plated...

 
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Post by NoSmoke » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 1:07 pm

Cast Iron is not that hard to weld if you know the trick. Really it is two: pre heat and post heat. It is not like steel where you can just strike an arc and molten metal just starts flowing from the high temperature arc. A person really needs to warm it up with a torch first.

For welding I just use 6011 welding rod which pulls enough cast iron into the weld with the mild steel filler rod to make it work. It saves buying special cast iron rod I do not use much of.

Then after welding, you have to let it cool down VERY slowly. How depends on the welded part. Sand is the best thing as it retains the heat and slowly dissipates it, but not all parts are conduscive to burying them in sand. In that case just applying heat with a torch works. I use temp sticks so i can see how my heat is slowly dropping.

 
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Post by NoSmoke » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 1:11 pm

Funny story on welding cast iron...

I was working in a shop and they had cast iron pipe to weld up, so the quality control engineer gave me a copy of the weld procedure, so like a dummy I did just what it said, right down to the letter. They happened to have some non-destructive testing people in for another job, so they x-rayed the pipe I had welded, though such testing was not required.

Stupid thing passed.

Guess who got EVERY cast iron welding job after that?

There is nothing wrong with it, it is just very "dirty welding" from the gritty nature of it, but on the better side of things, it does machine like butter.

 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Nov. 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Search for Radiant Home Air Blast 264a on here. For a pic.

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