Phillips and Clark Oakvale Andes 261

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Post By: Stove? » Fri. Jun. 01, 2018 1:15 am

Hello, I have a Phillips and Clark stove I'm trying to get off my hands, should I CL it or call an antique shop? Any help would be appreciated!
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Post By: Hillbilly » Fri. Jun. 01, 2018 7:32 am

Could you take some pictures of the side's and back of stove?
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Post By: Sunny Boy » Fri. Jun. 01, 2018 8:01 am

Welcome Stove?

Yes, as Hillbilly mentioned, more pix will help.

Anyone interested in buying it will also want to see clear pictures of the grates and rest of the inside.

Is there a shaker handle with it ?

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Post By: Stove? » Fri. Jun. 01, 2018 9:31 pm

Shaker handle? Honestly I know nothing about this stove. I came across this forum in my reseach. Un fortunately I can't move it on my own to get a clear picture of the back side.
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Post By: Sunny Boy » Fri. Jun. 01, 2018 10:08 pm

Ok, from your pix it sure looks like what is known as a "base heater". And having a high model number means it's one of the more decorative models. Andes was one of the better stove makers. You can do a search on this site to learn more about them.

What makes a base heater special is that it has an internal damper that redirects the exhaust flow inside the stove.

By moving that damper with the little curved lever at the rear of the right side to open damper to the "direct draft" position, it allows the exhaust to go directly from the firepot to the stove pipe to increase the draft strength and help get the fire going more quickly, and during refueling. Flip the lever and damper the other way to "indirect draft" and it directs the hot exhaust down the casting on the back side into a chamber under the ash pan area, loops around a baffle down there, then back up to the stove pipe. That extracts a lot more heat before it gets to the chimney.

The shaker handle is sitting on the back "tea shelf" above the direct/indirect damper.

And it has a magazine hanging inside the top opening of the stove to hold additional coal and feed it to the firebed by gravity as it burns. It also makes refueling faster and easier. Another desirable feature.

Looks like a "wood plate" type grate in the bottom of the firepot - with all those small round holes in it. It's meant for better control maintaining a bed of embers when burning wood. But it's not good for coal. Does that plate lift out ? Usually the wood plate just sits on top of a set of coal grates. If you have both type of grates that's another plus.

Just noticed it has the air holes drilled in the mica windows to help keep them clear of soot when burning wood. Very interesting detail rarely seen, but it's been discussed on here before.

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Post By: Hillbilly » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 2:33 am

It looks like you have a complete stove. Understand that you have a rare and one of the best baseheaters ever made. If you go under search here and look up Phillips & Clark Oakvale Andes stove you will find out more information on what you have. The Oakvale Andes is a all cast baseheater which makes it different from the Others. Good luck in whatever you decide to do with it.
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Post By: Pauliewog » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 10:34 am

Nice looking stove . Where are you located?

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Post By: KingCoal » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 1:54 pm

will the perferated wood plate come out of the bottom of the fire pot for a look at the coal grates ?

please check your PM's

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Post By: KingCoal » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 2:21 pm

thanks by the way for the good pics of the magazine in this Oakvale Andes stove.

there was formerly considerable discussion here concerning the manufacturers claim of the magazine being "adjustable" from the top of the stove.

if the shown magazine in these pics is indeed the original, being of single length construction, it would seem the only "adjustment" available would have been either "in" or "out" and accomplished without any other dismantling of the stove.

still a nice feature.

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Post By: Hillbilly » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 2:44 pm

If any of you men end up with this stove ive got the grates you can use to recast . I have the Model 161 . Only thing i see different is the 261 has side reflectors and a 2 piece skirt where the 161 has no reflectors and a 1 piece skirt. Would love to have that magazine recast , presently i dont have one for the 161
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Post By: Sunny Boy » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 3:06 pm

If Andes did like Glenwood, that magazine may also fit their Oak stoves. Randy, (photog2000) has two Andes Oaks and may want in on a magazine recasting project ?

I'm glad I had the chance to get in on the Glenwood magazine project. Sure made refueling my #6 base heater easier and faster !!!!

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Post By: KingCoal » Sat. Jun. 02, 2018 4:39 pm

if you look at this thread Post by freetown fred - Fire At The Furnace

you will see that Paulie has yet again made a coup in the mold and casting department and may be able to many other mags and special parts soon.

the guys going to take over i tell ya

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Post By: wsherrick » Sun. Jun. 03, 2018 2:16 pm

I did a complete rundown of this stove here a few years ago. This is one of best base heaters ever built as well as it is beautiful. It has a solid cast iron barrel and it is insanely heavy.
This model has the double heater feature, I believe.

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Post By: Stove? » Thu. Jun. 14, 2018 5:29 pm

Hey everyone sorry I haven't responded, I don't check my email much. Thank you all for the info, it's definitely been informative and helpful. I know similar stoves have gone for $1000-$1500 I've put a price of $800 because I want it gone. If anyone is interested I'm in CNY, you can contact me at 315-720-0207. I prefer texts, but if you must call, call twice because I don't answer numbers I don't know. Thanks- Kaitlan

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Post By: wsherrick » Fri. Jun. 15, 2018 6:00 pm

$800.00 bucks is a fair price for it in it's current state if and only if every part and piece of trim is there. It will take a couple of grand to restore that stove to be presentable and operational. I think someone should pick it up pretty soon at that price.
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