Union caboose stove help for a newbie!

 
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Post by peco76 » Sat. Mar. 31, 2018 9:11 pm

I am brand new to the coal burning world. I instantly became infatuated with viewing these old antique stoves. I decided to take a stab and buy one to restore and use this year. I found one that I just took a chance on without knowing too much about it. Can anyone tell me what they know about it. I found a few others online that are really close to it. It’s in great shape. I interested in the performance of this stove burning anthracite. It seems to be missing a piece that covers the hole on the outside where the shaker goes. Also, it is missing a piece where the top door locks. Does anyone know who may sell the parts? I’m also trying to find a value for this stove. I love reading all the posts on this site. I am amazed at the knowledge that gets thrown around here. I’ve included pictures also. Thanks for reading.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Apr. 01, 2018 8:48 pm

Welcome, peco.

Those type stoves can be a very interesting addition if your getting into collecting.

But, I hope your not looking to heat much area with it. They typically have small fireboxes that need to be tended more often than most household coal stoves. It may not even hold enough coal to heat through the night without having to be refueled ? And because they don't have much surface area to extract heat, they won't heat much more than the small space of inside a caboose.

As for missing parts, you could try doing a search and contact stove restoration shops to see if they have parts,...or know where else to look. Also try contacting railroad groups. They may have the same stove and would be willing to loan the parts your missing to use as patterns have recast parts made by a foundry, such as Tomahawk Foundry that recasts a lot of antique parts for members here.

Good hunting.

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Post by peco76 » Sun. Apr. 01, 2018 10:12 pm

Hey Paul, thank you for the reply Sir. I am putting it in a 35 ft. 300 sq. ft. School bus conversion with a raised roof. It is a small place. I plan on only using it when parked as I’ll be off the grid for a month at times. I thought it would be a good fit since a bus isn’t too much different than a caboose. I am going to bolt it down like they did back then. I definitely was trying to use the coal source so I could get an overnight burn where I know wood most likely wouldn’t. Thanks for the great ideas for getting parts. I didn’t even think to reach out to rr groups. I will definitely put that to use. Happy Easter to you and yours Paul!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Apr. 02, 2018 9:24 am

Your welcome, peco. And same to you and yours.

In a bus sized area you should be fine. However, you may need to use double wall stove pipe to help retain enough heat in such a short chimney to keep a healthy draft ????

The only questions then are, finding parts, and will it hold enough coal to burn long enough to let you get a good night's sleep.

Try filling it up with nut coal and weighing the coal. If it will hold close to 20 pounds, and you can make it fairly air leak free, then it should be good for about 10 hours. That's how long many kitchen ranges can burn when dampered down for the night with that amount of nut coal.

The good news of that application is,.... all you have to do is occasionally hit some bumpy roads and you won't have to shake the grates to clear ashes. :lol:

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Post by peco76 » Mon. Apr. 02, 2018 7:23 pm

Hey Paul, thanks for the info. I'll definitely go with the double wall pipe. That is good news about about the possibility of getting close to a 10 hour burn. I'm going to strip it down and clean it up. I'll send pics when I'm done and let you know what kind of burn time I get out it for curiosity's sake.

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 2:09 am

Welcome Peco, if you go to your profile and post a general idea what part of the country you live, there may be a member nearby that can help.

I just received a message today from a person looking for information on another Union Caboose stove.

Here is a picture of that stove to give you an idea what your missing grate shaker cover looks like.

Paulie

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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 7:35 am

And a potential for parts to be loaned to use as patterns to have recasts made. ;)

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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 8:09 am

Yep, clips are there for grate shaker flap--good deal

 
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Post by peco76 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 11:32 am

Ok, great. Thank you. I will go complete the profile out now.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 4:22 pm

Florida, huh? Yeah, you won't have any trouble heating with such a small stove. :D

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Post by Pauliewog » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:38 pm

I'm thinking he can get by with one bag. :lol:

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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 7:41 pm

Pauliewog wrote:
Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:38 pm
I'm thinking he can get by with one bag. :lol:

Paulie
Or,.... just use it as a candle stand,.... gives heat and light. :lol:

Peco, hope you don't mind a bit of ribbing. It's free with the advice. :D

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Post by peco76 » Thu. Apr. 05, 2018 3:18 pm

Yeah, the candle would probably work for me here at home. :lol: I think we ran the fireplace about a week this year. Hence, the reason I don't know anything about coal. I will be all over the country now that I am building the skoolie. I'll be glad to get out of this Florida heat in the summer. I'm looking forward to learn how to use coal in this old stove and try not to burn the caboose down at the same time.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Apr. 05, 2018 4:50 pm

Well, if your gonna travel north, then ignore Paulie's advice,................


........ buy two bags of coal. :lol: :lol:

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Post by peco76 » Thu. Apr. 05, 2018 5:24 pm

:lol: :lol:


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