Baltimore heater, what to know?

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Thu. Nov. 30, 2017 2:12 pm

Pierre (sunnyside rebuilder) brilliantly modified the grate to run on nut and it does. Otherwise, I think this stove is best fed stove size. I did not use the magazine or the shroud and made by own dist. air system. Already I have 2 fire outs but that is due to the fact that i am a congenital idiot. :oops: All info available free for another coalie. First though I think you have to find the right stove and I am not convinced this is it. Good luck. Sunnyside chapter 2 will continue with a 100 year old thermostat coupled to back air once everything around around the farm stops breaking ...


 
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Post by Pauliewog » Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 1:50 am

gardener wrote:
Thu. Nov. 30, 2017 9:19 am
Wow! Is there another piece to the grate on the Sunnyside?
The spacing in the grate looks like you'd need to feed the largest coal size to keep from it falling through.
Do you have to lay some sort of supplement grate over top of it?
Yes, the Sunnyside grate was made for stove coal :D
I plan on making a new grate pattern with a smaller spacing and having it cast.

Coalnewbie can fill you in on the grate that Pierre modified
for his Sunny.

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Post by nortcan » Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 10:13 am

The space between the bottom of the fire pot and the grate must be as small as possible, if not the unburned anthr. or other things we find in the ash pas will jam the grate rotation, don't forget that stove size becomes smaller when burning....
Having the liner going as close to the grate as possible help, the teeth space from the fire pot are the best place for anthr. or other solid pieces in the coal bed to get in and then jam the grate rotation.

 
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Post by gardener » Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 12:43 pm

I don't understand why the firepot has teeth along the the edge. Perhaps the grate is not some sort of shaker (rocking on a center line) that instead it has some sort of cog that cause it to rotate at the center? That seems like a good reason some grates are supported by a center pin.

School me, please.

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 3:24 pm

The fingers on a suspended firepot help with a number of things.

For one they increase the volume of open area available at the bottom of the fire bed for combustion air.

When the bed is ashed up , these fingers act like a rock rake, in that they keep the larger pieces and embers that are not completely burned from falling thru during shakedown.

The round ring grate does rotate from side to side on most if not all grates of this type. The side to side movement, combined with the fingers, does a great job in breaking down the burnt ash into powder.

Ring grates with the center pin mount not only rotate side to side but also tip a bit up and down to help with klinker jams.

The space between the fingers makes flossing the bed much easier along with another band of radiant heat and glowing illumination. :D

Hope this helps explain it.

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Post by PJT » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 11:56 am

Is it possible to burn wood occasionally in these?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 12:03 pm

PJT wrote:
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Is it possible to burn wood occasionally in these?
Sure Pete,.... if you like cleaning soot off all those mica windows,.... and maybe having to get creosote out of hard to reach flues. ;)

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Post by coalnewbie » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 12:59 pm

I think that should be a hanging offense. Perhaps hung, drawn and quartered but I may be over reacting.

 
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Post by PJT » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 2:00 pm

well they did that to my great greatX granduncle...

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 2:04 pm

PJT wrote:
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well they did that to my great greatX granduncle...
So, you have a family history of using wood in a mica base burner stove ? :o

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Post by Pauliewog » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 2:28 pm

PJT wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 2:00 pm
well they did that to my great greatX granduncle...

Is that the Baltimore heater that was on Craigslist with the warped and crystallized firepot and magazine ?

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Post by PJT » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:00 pm

ha ha no I think they got him on a (alleged) treason charge

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 4:41 pm

The only nice thing about finding a Baltimore heater that burned wood is that you can usually pick them up for $100 or less if you need extra handles, doors, and parts or are looking to make a realistic faux fireplace.

Here is a perfect example of the inside of one that occasionally burned wood .

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Post by wsherrick » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 5:05 pm

PJT wrote:
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Is it possible to burn wood occasionally in these?
The answer to this question is NO.

 
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Post by gardener » Mon. Dec. 18, 2017 4:45 pm

Pauliewog wrote:
Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 3:24 pm
The round ring grate does rotate from side to side on most if not all grates of this type. The side to side movement, combined with the fingers, does a great job in breaking down the burnt ash into powder.

Ring grates with the center pin mount not only rotate side to side but also tip a bit up and down to help with klinker jams.
How do these types of grates rotate, the ones with the center pin and the ones that are supported by supports on the outer part of the grate... do you have to open the door and use a poker to push and pull the grate back and forth? Or is there some kind of cog connected to the grate's outer teeth that is activated by a lever on the outside of the unit?


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