New project......Florence Hotblast #153

 
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Post by Kiletravis09 » Thu. Sep. 21, 2017 8:23 pm

So I was cruising CL the other day and happened upon a Florence #77. I called the guy and he told me he actually had three antique stoves. He sent me pics of all three stoves and they looked to be in great condition. He had a Florence Hotblast #77, Hermetic Favorite #318, and a Florence Hotblast #153. The #77 was in pretty decent shape other than a small crack in the skirt. The Hermetic is also in great shape other than a few small details. The Hotblast #153 I picked up was in the best shape of all of them. It still had the Hitblast Air Rings which is what really sold me on it. He offered me all three of the stoves for 900$. If I would have had the cash I would have done it. I ended up picking up the 153 for 300$. I'm considering going back to get the Favorite #318 for 300$ also because it had a huge fire pot and was just an overall pretty stove. The #154 I picked up will be broken down, stripped and rebuilt. Luckily I don't have to have anything recast because I plan on using it this winter to help my wood burning stove. What type of burn times can I expect if I plan to use anthracite? I know it really was made for bituminous but I would rather burn anthracite. I'll leave some pics of all of the stoves. If anyone needs parts off of the stove just let me know and we can work something out. I have no problem sending things to the foundry if your missing a part including the hotblast rings. I'll update as I get more accomplished on the stove. I hope to hear from you guys!

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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Sep. 21, 2017 8:29 pm

Nice deal K. :)

 
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Post by Kiletravis09 » Thu. Oct. 05, 2017 7:13 am

So I disassembled the stove on Monday and discovered the secondary air intake box was shattered. I called around and found a place in Kansas called Mill Creek Antiques. They have the part that I need so they are going to send it to the foundry and get it cast for me. While I was looking for the part I talked to the owner of Erickson stoves out in Massachusetts. He was a really nice guy to talk to. ftom the sound of it, he had some really nice stoves that I might be interested in buying from him (unrestored).

Also yesterday I purchased a sandblaster. What types of media have you guys found to be the best for cast iron stove parts? I was thinking black beauty but if you have something that would work better let me know. I'll update once the parts get blasted.
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Oct. 05, 2017 9:57 am

I blast antique car parts for a living. Lots of cast iron, cast steel and sheet metal.

Sand is cheap, but breaks down quickly and is dusty making it tougher to see the work. Also more likely to absorb and have moisture caused feed problems.

Steel slag (Black Beauty) is quick. I use a mix of that and sand in my sand blasting garage. As blasting media goes, the particles are heavy, so they impact with more energy. That's a big part of why it cuts through rust quickly, but it also heats the surface being blasted. Believe it or not, that can warp light gauge sheet metal just from friction heating of surface being blasted. Don't use slag on delicate, or die cast parts. When I have to blast aluminum bodies cars I switch to fine sand so as not to warp the surfaces. Does not get down into the bottom of rust pits as thoroughly as sand. That's why I use a mix in the garage. Steel slag doesn't have the moisture feed problems of sand.

In my blast cabinet I use Skat-magic. http://www.skatblast.com/skat-magic-abrasive.html It's recycled auto glass. Almost as aggressive as steel slag, equally not dusty, gets into rust pits well, but not as destructive of sheet metal and delicate parts. Also doesn't absorb moisture like sand.

Keep in mind that whatever you chose,..... the faster it wears off rust on the parts your blasting, the faster it also wears out blasting nozzles and to a lesser extent, hose fittings.

Two other factors in blasting media choice. Make sure you have the right size nozzle for the blast media your using, then make sure you have a big enough compressor to power that size nozzle. Most cabinets about the size in your picture need around a 5 hp, 20+ CFM compressor. That's now up into needing 240v and about 25 amps. You don't want the compressor having to run more than about 60% of the time so it gets some cool-down time. If it's run too hard you'll get moisture problems, plus risk burning it out.

And keep in mind that as the nozzle wears larger, the blasting pressure will decrease. Been there and tried to use too small a compressor when I first went into business. VERY frustrating have to stop blasting and wait for the compressor to catch up and fill the tank with air pressure enough to work with.

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Post by Paned » Thu. Oct. 05, 2017 8:34 pm

I have a couple parts 153 stoves if you need anything else. I may have it

 
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Post by warminmn » Fri. Oct. 06, 2017 8:06 am

You got the stove bug Kile! Looks nice. Be careful as it seems to be addictive buying these old stoves :D

 
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Post by Kiletravis09 » Fri. Oct. 13, 2017 11:28 am

So iv been busy sandblasting parts and waiting on some things to come in from Amazon. I decided to do a two part finish on the stove. After the blasting I spray the entire piece with Rustileum ultra high 2000 degree paint just to protect it while I blast other parts. Then once the paint dries I use imperial stove polish. I really like the finish once the polish is buffed. It's exactly what I was hoping for, a slight dull luster. Once I'm done doing these few parts I'll be completing the base (sandblast, paint,polish) then doing the trim pieces. I have decided to do the poor mans Nickle plating alternative until I can find a good plater in my state. I'm just trying to hurry up and get this finished and assembled before Halloween!

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Post by warminmn » Fri. Oct. 13, 2017 4:05 pm

Nice work! Way back in your 1st post you asked about burn times and it got overlooked. I dont have your answer but am adding this in my reply as others may know and reply.

 
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Post by Kiletravis09 » Tue. Oct. 17, 2017 7:26 pm

So I have gotten a few more parts blasted and painted. I really love seeing this stove coming together. It's almost time to fire it up! I already have a fire in the wood stove so I'm really itching to try out coal for the first time. Here are some pics of a few more parts painted and stove polished. Next up will be to do the "poor mans alternative to nickel plating". I'm going to be ordering the high temp clear and the 3M pads tomorrow. I'm also to the stage where I need to be thinking about what to use for the lining in the firepot. Any suggestions? Here's some pics.
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Post by Kiletravis09 » Thu. Nov. 09, 2017 4:57 pm

Just a quick update. The stove is coming along pretty quickly. I’m trying to find one more part before i try to start my first coal fire in her! For now I’m doing the entire stove in black just so i can get it going for the winter. Next spring I’ll take the trim parts off and send them to get plated. Here’s some pics.

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Post by Yeesam » Fri. Jun. 25, 2021 3:17 pm

I recently acquired a Florence 153. It’s currently in my shop I’ve been doing research on to where to begin restoration. I didn’t notice off the bat that there is a piece inside that looks cracked as well as some cracking in the belly. Any advice?

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Post by jryannizzi » Sun. Dec. 04, 2022 6:26 pm

Hi, I have a florence 153 that I recently moved to colorado from new mexico.
Unfortunately the moving company broke 2 legs on the base and half of the chrome skirt.
I would like to replace both pieces. The stove looks very similar to the picture
you posted. Do you still have it and would you be interested in selling the parts?

 
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Post by jryannizzi » Sun. Dec. 04, 2022 7:00 pm

so I'm new to this. I've had this stove for 40+ years and it was in mint condition when I bought it.
I got divorced many years ago and my wife took it to NM. She recently passed away and lo I got the stove back.
I hired movers to bring it back to colorado and they busted it up. I am heartbroken and trying to figure out what to do next

 
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Post by tcalo » Sun. Dec. 04, 2022 7:50 pm

Sorry about the damage to the stove!! There are a number of stove shops in the New England area that deal with antique stoves. You may want to reach out to one for parts. Maybe they can even fix the damaged parts. You can also epoxy them back together and send them off to a foundry to have them recast. Good luck.

 
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Post by jryannizzi » Mon. Dec. 05, 2022 6:12 pm

thx for the reply. Would you have any names or websites? I may be able to epoxy the base together
and fabricate a steel stand to fit inside of the original to bear the weight. Unfortunately the chrome skirt half that was broken is
missing and the movers say they don't have it


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