Clarion 115

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:47 am

Sunny Boy wrote: ↑
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:15 am
Adds to the theory that it may not be the original flange ?

If it's a good sized gap - wider than the thickness of a nickel- with all the thermal expansion/contraction at that point, you might want to put mash some fiberglass screen mesh in with the cement to help hold it together in the gap.

Paul

No, flange say clarion 115-1913-xx. Gap is from .093 smaller diameter barrel. Plus 16 ga. barrel,not 20 ga.

As per not original flange, the cast elbow on 114 is off gw20. Casting # says this.

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:51 am

michaelanthony wrote: ↑
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:32 am
Have you tried spinning the flange 180 degrees to see if the fit is the same...just a thought

edit: both pipe and barrel have a seam so both to and fro have a notch on the flange.

Can't flip flange it is keyed to back pipe. Would have to flip both flanges.

Flange gots notches on barrel and pipe sides.

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:55 am

Joeq (TOTP).

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:40 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:51 am
Can't flip flange it is keyed to back pipe. Would have to flip both flanges.

Flange gots notches on barrel and pipe sides.

...my bad, I meant both flanges. I was curious if the radius on both ends of the flange were the same.

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 10:20 am

michaelanthony wrote: ↑
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:40 am
...my bad, I meant both flanges. I was curious if the radius on both ends of the flange were the same.

If a flange was on a baseball, it would not very well on a basketball or vice versa.

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 10:55 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 10:20 am
If a flange was on a baseball, it would not very well on a basketball or vice versa.

Maybe this will help my muse: The center of the diverter damper is 1 3/4" from the barrel and 2 1/4" from the back pipe and the shape of the openings very to accommodate their mate. Hope this helps......my flanges fit a rugby and tetherball, took forever to get the rugby ball.

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Sat. Jan. 13, 2018 8:01 pm

It took a couple tries to get the barrel gray enough. IAT was some of the trouble.

Just need to add a few knobs and handle. Touch up sweat drop marks.

Added sheet metal shim in barrel flange, no gap at all now.

Here is new and improved pics.

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sat. Jan. 13, 2018 10:16 pm

Nicely done Mugsy. Very classy. The flat finish on your barrel, is how mine now looks after a few seasons of operation. It originally had more of a shine to it, but went away really quick. Could you shoot a few pics of the interior of your Clarion? I'ld like to see the big pot, that mine is lacking.

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Sat. Jan. 13, 2018 10:20 pm

Page 3 and 4. For now. More later.

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Sat. Jan. 13, 2018 10:24 pm

Oh yeah, there it is. Thanks

KingCoal · Post by **KingCoal** » Sun. Jan. 14, 2018 7:34 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:35 pm
It is almost the same size as d.s 1500. The 115 holds 6 pounds less.

so we're talking a 100# + base burner in one of the most space, burn and radiant ability designs ever.

i'm sayin MONSTER

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Sun. Jan. 14, 2018 7:42 am

The d. s. might get retired. W.M. will almost always be burning something.

Don't think 115 holds a 100#, been wrong many times.

Both together, I can see over 100#.

-5 deg and still have 2 more gears to go, in both stoves.

KingCoal · Post by **KingCoal** » Sun. Jan. 14, 2018 2:55 pm

the top of the fire pot is how far across and how deep from load door threshold to the deepest part of the grates ?

the "100" series of stoves built on this design by all the major manufacturers are all very consistent in sizing capacity and performance, being 109, 111, 113, 115.

not sure there is anything bigger than yours in this general design and the GW 113 is very well known as being a major heater.

here's the spec sheet for the DS circulators, i can tell you for sure that the capacities claimed are seriously skewed. for instance to the best of my knowledge none of the hoppers hold 50# of coal and in the case of my 1400 the hopper holds exactly 20#'s and the fire box itself holds 80#'s filled in a crown that touches the bottom of the hopper.

the WM 400 is a cabinet circulator based on the #120 / #520 radiant stoves each having a 100# capacity on their own.

still love the 115 and will be waiting impatiently for the performance reports

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Sun. Jan. 14, 2018 7:38 pm

KingCoal wrote: ↑
Sun. Jan. 14, 2018 2:55 pm
the top of the fire pot is how far across and how deep from load door threshold to the deepest part of the grates ?

115 Fire pot front 11 back 14 using 12.5 gives6.5x6.5xpiex12.5x.031=51.433lbs. (correct?)

the "100" series of stoves built on this design by all the major manufacturers are all very consistent in sizing capacity and performance, being 109, 111, 113, 115.

not sure there is anything bigger than yours in this general design and the GW 113 is very well known as being a major heater.

here's the spec sheet for the DS circulators, i can tell you for sure that the capacities claimed are seriously skewed. for instance to the best of my knowledge none of the hoppers hold 50# of coal and in the case of my 1400 the hopper holds exactly 20#'s and the fire box itself holds 80#'s filled in a crown that touches the bottom of the hopper.

DS 1500 16 x 16 x 9 x .031=71.4 (?) No Hopper

the WM 400 is a cabinet circulator based on the #120 / #520 radiant stoves each having a 100# capacity on their own.

still love the 115 and will be waiting impatiently for the performance reports

My both together 100# figure comes from 50# DS on fire and 50# out of 100# in Wm on fire at one time. (Roughly)