Clarion 115

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:45 pm

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:35 pm
It is almost the same size as d.s 1500. The 115 holds 6 pounds less.

I understand your thinking, I was fooled by my Home Sparkle 12. a slightly smaller cousin to your stove, 15 inch barrel, 12.5 fire pot, and it holds about 30 - 35 lbs of stove coal. running it around 475 on the bottom of the barrel and approx. 200 top of barrel and base it is out performing my Vigilant 2310 that holds 45-50 lbs of coal. The round-tall cylinder stoves were genious!

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:52 pm

I think d.s holds 57 lbs. 115 holds 51lbs.

The heat on the 115 is probably not going to come up the steps.
Heat from d.s flies up the steps.

Had a 50-93 for a week, it did not stay long.

tcalo · Post by **tcalo** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 12:36 am

michaelanthony wrote: ↑
Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:23 pm
Speaking of barrel seam, back in the day they sure went to great lengths casting barrel to pipe flange with a channel to allow space for the seam.

I believe all flanges have the notch for the barrel seam. At least my G109 does.

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 4:24 am

tcalo wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 12:36 am
I believe all flanges have the notch for the barrel seam. At least my G109 does.

Yup they do Tom, but why cut a barrel at it's weakest spot and simply turn the barrel X number of degrees then cut the openings.

...sorry for the drift MB

scalabro · Post by **scalabro** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 5:31 am

michaelanthony wrote: ↑
Mon. Jan. 08, 2018 9:23 pm
Nice job on those bricks! Did you cement both sides?

Speaking of barrel seam, back in the day they sure went to great lengths casting barrel to pipe flange with a channel to allow space for the seam. Why not offset the seam to one side or the other, no need to cut through the seam...just sayin'

That would be sloppy and unsightly!

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:00 am

My 114 flange has a notch but no seam anywhere.

tcalo · Post by **tcalo** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:07 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:00 am
My 114 flange has a notch but no seam anywhere.

The barrel has to have a seam...right?

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:13 am

tcalo wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:07 am
The barrel has to have a seam...right?

No. It is 3/4 round. Just looked all my stoves they all have notches.
But not all have seams.

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:39 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 8:00 am
My 114 flange has a notch but no seam anywhere.

Possibly swapped at sometime if the original cracked ?

None of my 118 have notches in the barrel flanges, but the back pipe flange for the seam side of the pipe does.

Paul

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 1:19 pm

Sunny Boy wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:39 am
Possibly swapped at sometime if the original cracked ?

None of my 118 have notches in the barrel flanges, but the back pipe flange for the seam side of the pipe does.

Paul

Yep, you are correct. I knew one of them didn't .

scalabro · Post by **scalabro** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 7:13 pm

MB...are you concerned your welded seam may fail?

mntbugy · Post by **mntbugy** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:26 pm

scalabro wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 7:13 pm
MB...are you concerned your welded seam may fail?

Seam did not fail yet. Got rid of flat spot at seam. Got a little air gap
on flange at 3&9 o'clock. Due to hair smaller diameter barrel. Almost done. Need to cement flange and back pipe. Then outside for fuel and spark.

joeq · Post by **joeq** » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 11:02 pm

Is this a private party, or can anyone join? I can't believe I missed this thread. Nice job hiding it.
1st off, (mountain buggy), congrats on your "new" (?) stove. When I viewed the 1st few pages of this thread, and saw the photos you posted, your Clarion looks extremely similar to my 111. With all its bells and whistles. However, on the plus side, your fire pot being bigger than the 111, should perform much better than my stove. I'm envious.
And as others have brought up, my stove also has a notch on the diverter valve flange. Is yours "not" notched?
(Can't wait to hear the performance of your stove. Good luck getting it back together.)

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Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:15 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:26 pm
Seam did not fail yet. Got rid of flat spot at seam. Got a little air gap
on flange at 3&9 o'clock. Due to hair smaller diameter barrel. Almost done. Need to cement flange and back pipe. Then outside for fuel and spark.

Adds to the theory that it may not be the original flange ?

If it's a good sized gap - wider than the thickness of a nickel- with all the thermal expansion/contraction at that point, you might want to put mash some fiberglass screen mesh in with the cement to help hold it together in the gap.

Paul

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:32 am

mntbugy wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:26 pm
Seam did not fail yet. Got rid of flat spot at seam. Got a little air gap
on flange at 3&9 o'clock. Due to hair smaller diameter barrel. Almost done. Need to cement flange and back pipe. Then outside for fuel and spark.

Have you tried spinning the flange 180 degrees to see if the fit is the same...just a thought

edit: both pipe and barrel have a seam so both to and fro have a notch on the flange.

Clarion 115

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