Clarion 115

Paul, I need volumes of heat at 18ish degree and below to be comfortable.
My heat calls today are not very manly, just putter along 2 stoves.
When cold both are full to brim and some, and stretching their legs.

Steve, that's kind of what I'm hoping for.

MB, you say you get dust out your primaries? (This may be a stupid question, but don't take it personal, it's just me). I'm sure you must be shutting your damper (primary) tight, when you shake it? With the MPD wide open. If your primary damper is closed, and dust is coming out, is it not sealing correctly? the Glenwoods have a pretty good fit there, so I don't see how yours is happening. Also, before I shake or rotate the grate for ash cleaning, I take a poker through the klinker door port, and scrape or riddle the grate extensively before I do my shaking last. Don't know which method is preferred in which order, but I'm still experimenting. But the riddling doesn't seem to raise as much ash as the shaker only would.

Had very little draft to start with. Plus stove was cooling off quick. Just opened heat valve, and gave a couple twists. Most of what came out primary,bounced off ash pan through vent holes,not much draft didn't help.
Nothing in smoke pipe. Just paint curing fire,test it out fire.

What size/kind of spring that is behind nickel cap on over/under fire air slider thingy. Need to get more tension on primary slider , so it slides open and shut better.

There doesn't appear to be any spring on this securing screw MB. It's an allen head screw with a couple washers. The outside knob is secured to it, and they just seem to spin together. I can't adjust the tension. Seems the screw is bottomed out in the knob. It slides very freely, but doesn't have any slop in the track at all. Very good tolerances and quality.

The knobs are pressed on with a spring under the outer cap. I have no idea what type tension the factory spring has, tight enough to keep the slider tight against the door frame. My primary air slider is quite tight. My secodary air slider is rather loose though. I always thought that was from someone burning wood in it and heating the tension right out of the spring.

Joe, it sounds as though your primary slider had some work done to it at some point.

Not sure about the Clarions but many of the Glenwoods have a coil spring inside a two-piece, telescoping, stamped sheet metal handle like in tcalo's picture. There's a round headed rivet in under that handle's cap that goes through the handle, spring, and damper and is peened over at end inside the stove.

The springs loses temper (becomes partially annealed) and weakens from high heat over the years

You can tighten the spring on some by cutting a slot in a washer to slip over the rivet. Then slide the washer in as you pry up gently under the handle.

On those without a spring, you can sometimes tighten the rivet by supporting the rivet head and use a small ball peen hammer on the peened end to tighten it more.

Paul

Yea that is it Tom and Paul. Thanks Joe.

tcalo wrote: ↑

Sat. Jan. 20, 2018 10:51 pm

Joe, it sounds as though your primary slider had some work done to it at some point.

I guess you're right Tom. I didn't think allen screws were factory supplied, 100 years ago.

Stole a return spring out of a 5 inch long paper stapler. Ash door slider work like a charm. Stapler cost 2 dollars, spring at hardware stove 5 dollars.
Edit: got two springs. One at hinge side and one in handle for the ram.

Heater is plugged in and turned on.

Some real numbers with out wind chill factor.

Draft -.02 and higher. Wind gusts 30mph.
Around finial 253
Barrel under oven 427
Barrel at fire pot height 441
Bottom of barrel about clinker door height 531
Top of base plate front 334 back 353
Base wall front 228 back 256
smoke pipe straight up 5 foot at thimble 116

Man, looking really good! I especially like the "427" barrel number.
Now we'll wait for the real test...burn times and heat output. Good luck, and great job.

Filled her up and turned way up last night.
Still sitting at barrel temps of 654,693,763, pipe 163.
Feed it 15-20# of food.

Nice numbers ! What did you have for your room temperature this morning ?

Paulie