Glenwood 116 to Help Out Little Tiget
- Wren
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I'll only have to read it a few more times.... And yes I will partly because of the box on the back for water that I wish I was using but I'm sure air gets in. I meant to pick some rock wool up after work but forgot.
Still some work to do on the range. And the 116.
Still some work to do on the range. And the 116.
- Wren
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Someone was asking about the refractory? It's Harbison Walker International and I emailed the company in the U.S. and Ontario is huge... they sent me the name of the closest dealer. I just went to their website and hit contact us, and they will also tell you what product will suit your project. Very kind. I did some name dropping, haha, not sure if it helped or not.
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For plugging up the water front pipe holes in the back of the firebox, you can use ordinary fiberglass insulation. Since it's more flexible that might be easier to use to wad a couple of small pieces in those pipe holes.
I could have used fiberglass for the rear heat shield except what I have is 6 inches thick, so I'd have to make it thinner, it's messy and itchy to do that. Plus, a friend had given me the sheets of one inch thick rock wool, so no thinning needed - just cut two pieces to fit in the sheet metal cover I made for the back of the oven and firebox.
Paul
I could have used fiberglass for the rear heat shield except what I have is 6 inches thick, so I'd have to make it thinner, it's messy and itchy to do that. Plus, a friend had given me the sheets of one inch thick rock wool, so no thinning needed - just cut two pieces to fit in the sheet metal cover I made for the back of the oven and firebox.
Paul
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The pink fiberglass I can use and it won't burn?
The range was still burning this morning at 5:45 and I hadn't touched it since 8:30. Hasn't burned that well in a while as nd I was pretty pleased. Went downstairs afraid to find it cold. And the ash was nice and find and about a third live coal in box. Wasnt freezing last night but not sure of oats but it was cold enough. Thank God.
The range was still burning this morning at 5:45 and I hadn't touched it since 8:30. Hasn't burned that well in a while as nd I was pretty pleased. Went downstairs afraid to find it cold. And the ash was nice and find and about a third live coal in box. Wasnt freezing last night but not sure of oats but it was cold enough. Thank God.
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Fiberglass insulation is real glass fibers, it can take temps up to about 1300 F - about the start of the melting point of glass. That's into the range of cast iron turning bright yellow, which with a lined firebox that back wall would never get anywhere near that hot. So yes, you can use fiberglass insulation to seal up those pipe holes in the back wall of the firebox.Wren wrote: ↑Fri. Oct. 16, 2020 9:42 amThe pink fiberglass I can use and it won't burn?
The range was still burning this morning at 5:45 and I hadn't touched it since 8:30. Hasn't burned that well in a while as nd I was pretty pleased. Went downstairs afraid to find it cold. And the ash was nice and find and about a third live coal in box. Wasnt freezing last night but not sure of oats but it was cold enough. Thank God.
- Wren
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I did not know that. But I'm not allowed to put in in the front left corner between the firebox and the outside of the stove I suppose....
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Still going at six and didn't even fill it full.
Im glad I did it. I think I psyched myself out thinking it was impossible to do but it still seems fine even though I cured it as one would z boiled eggs- exactly what it did not need. Forgiving stuff. So far!!! It's only been a few days burning.
Im glad I did it. I think I psyched myself out thinking it was impossible to do but it still seems fine even though I cured it as one would z boiled eggs- exactly what it did not need. Forgiving stuff. So far!!! It's only been a few days burning.
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As long as there is that 3/4 layer of refractory between the fiberglass and the firebed, it will be OK.
If your using it to plug air leaks around the firebox to gain better control of the firebed, then fine. But if it's not needed for fire air control it just cuts down on that area's heat radiation.
Paul
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Yes that's what it's for. There was some kind of gasket / cement in that side corner seam but it has crumbled out.
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So now that I've been at the plant making windows my youngest son found a post that reminds him of me at work at the store, but that's not really true.... I'd love to have heard another cashier say that though, just for laughs.
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What window company/brand ?
We're getting them replaced in the Saratoga house, soon. What a bit of irony if you made them.
Paul
We're getting them replaced in the Saratoga house, soon. What a bit of irony if you made them.
Paul
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KP Windows. It was Farley Windows. It is family owned, three plants, and actually treat empoyees very well. I like it. Uses muscle a little and I move, don't stand in one spot. Just what I need at my age. HR from Montreal was there or I don't think I'd have the job. I'm not from around here and you'd be surprised how that matters, but everyone is nice.
What range do you think has the biggest firebox? I'm daydreaming.
https://www.farleywindows.com/
What range do you think has the biggest firebox? I'm daydreaming.
https://www.farleywindows.com/
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The model E was one of the larger ones and with the water reservoir that'll extract more heat. If your thinking of using it to heat water, not a good idea. The tanks push moisture into that end housing and cause rust. But it's a great addition for room temperature control and adds about 4 square feet of heat radiating surface area. It'll have longer flue lengths and more heat extracting surface area than any large base heaters.
But it looks like that one has a hole where a grate shaft should be. If it doesn't have coal grates and frame, I believe Dana (Dlapan), or Wilson can provide them.
I know mine is one of the smallest ranges Glenwood made and your Model C is larger - as a mid-size. Yours should easily run 12 hours or more, filled up and dampered down to idle.
Unfortunately, Glenwood only listed oven and outer sizes of their ranges, not the firebox.
Dana or Wilson could tell you better, which models have the larger firebox.
Some ranges, like one that Dana has ( Model E ???), have a bolt-on extension on the back end of the firebox for wood, which I believe was an option with some models. He can fit 24 inch long pieces in that one. However, I don't know if that extension can be used with coal. Maybe he'll post more about it ?
Paul
But it looks like that one has a hole where a grate shaft should be. If it doesn't have coal grates and frame, I believe Dana (Dlapan), or Wilson can provide them.
I know mine is one of the smallest ranges Glenwood made and your Model C is larger - as a mid-size. Yours should easily run 12 hours or more, filled up and dampered down to idle.
Unfortunately, Glenwood only listed oven and outer sizes of their ranges, not the firebox.
Dana or Wilson could tell you better, which models have the larger firebox.
Some ranges, like one that Dana has ( Model E ???), have a bolt-on extension on the back end of the firebox for wood, which I believe was an option with some models. He can fit 24 inch long pieces in that one. However, I don't know if that extension can be used with coal. Maybe he'll post more about it ?
Paul