Inherited a Moore's 403B Airtight Stove

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Post Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 12:27 pm

New to this site, and it's the only place I've seen people fixing up and using old coal/ wood stoves--happy to find you! I've inherited a Moore's 403B Airtight stove. It's beautiful, rusted, and has been years and years (and years) without use. I want to be able to USE it, but I'm completely stupid as to how it's supposed to work, and not sure what I'm up against to restore it. The top door has no micah (or anything to seal it), and the bottom door is missing the slide, and internal louvers (?) ... again, please forgive my ignorance! I would love to see someone's finished (functioning) doors. NEXT I'll work on replacing the inside...no cracks, so I think I'm on the right track... any help is appreciated!
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Post Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 5:12 pm

Welcome to the Forum... can you show us the inside - fire pot and grates/shaker bar? I'm not familiar with this model but others will be by who are. It may take a few days as things are slow this time of year in the NEPACrossroads. Take care, Lisa
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Post Thu. Aug. 25, 2016 6:33 pm

Hi,

glad you found us. there ARE people here with the very type of stove you are asking about.

the first 4-5 rows of results in this google search will give you some idea what your stove looked like when it was made and what it "might" be able to look like if it's all there and not damaged.

hope it helps

https://www.google.com/search?q=moores+airtight+heater+403b& ... AQ_AUIBygC

this link will put you into lots of sites, articles and pics

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=moores%20airtight%20heater%20no.%20403%20b

good luck,
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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 12:56 pm

Thank you, both! I am psyched to have some help/ feedback!

Lisa--I've added some photos below...

Steve (King Coal!)--I've bounced around those same google searches, but am having no real luck finding photos of the inner workings, like the back of the doors, or the grates and shaker bars that Lisa so astutely wanted to see of my stove! EDIT: I found one pic of an inside--but this stove looks pretty beat up, not sure it's a good role-model? (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/moore-airtight-woodstove)

I've seen it (my stove) assembled and it looks (rusty, but) beautiful (and complete) from the outside, but after further inspection I am wondering if this is a foolish venture. Both of the doors need to be fixed (re-built?!), the 'grates' and 'shaker' bar are missing...?! I'm quite sure what you see pictured here is, um, not the right grate...
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grate not.jpg
Isn't this a car part?!
On another note (admitting my ignorance)... I've been using wood-burning stoves for sole-source heat (besides some passive solar) for 20+ years, but am unfamiliar with how coal stoves are different. (Difference between wood and coal stoves seem to be a complexity of ventilation, grates, shaker bars... can anyone send me to a primer on the basics of how the stove is supposed to work?) I am about to start mining 'the google' for this info, but maybe someone here can cut my search short...

Thanks again!

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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 4:12 pm

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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 4:40 pm

Welcome 403

The grate showing in your stove picture is obviously incorrect.

The grate in the picture in your link, is most likely what was original type. It's commonly called a "draw center" grate. That design was used in many makes of stoves.

The draw center piece can slide in and out by pulling/pushing on the removable shaker handle. It's used to dump any clinkers that may form in the ash. By moving the same handle left or right, it rotates both the draw center piece and round part of the grate to shake all the ash loose.

You might find a replacement size here, http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/Parts/Wood-and-Coal/D65649N1C20O-1.html?infield=Filter6:Round Grates with Slides They've redone their pages. I'm not sure why they don't show the draw center part anymore. A phone call to them, with measurements of the diameter of the firepot base where the grate would sit, may help find you a grate to use. Handles for those type grates often turn up on eBay.

You can also try calling some of the stove restoration shops that also sell parts. They may have a recast grate that will work.
The Stove Hospital http://stovehospital.com/
Bryants Stove, http://www.bryantstoves.com/
Barnstable Stove, http://barnstablestove.com/html/kitchenranges.php

Good hunting.


Paul
So many stoves - so few chimneys. I must be coal-stone crazy.


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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 5:04 pm

Wrong thread-sorry. :oops:

Paul
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So many stoves - so few chimneys. I must be coal-stone crazy.

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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 6:24 pm

Rev. Larry--thank you for the primer! I have a LOT to learn, and this is a fantastic spot to start.

Paul--thanks for the links, finding a replacement part would be awesome! I'm not sure if your second post was in the right spot, but interesting nonetheless!

This forum rocks.

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Post Thu. Sep. 01, 2016 10:02 pm

Your welcome, 403.

Yeah, wrong thread. I thought I had cut and pasted that into the political forum. I should'a waited until the coffee kicked in. :oops:

Paul
So many stoves - so few chimneys. I must be coal-stone crazy.

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Post Thu. May. 11, 2017 3:38 pm

Looking for a base for a Moores 403B Stove- anyone have a lead?

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