Glenwood Oak/Modern Oak 1800Sqft Ranch
- ASea
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Is the pipe on the back of these stoves low enough for a fireplace install? What would be the best size for the main floor of an 1800sqft ranch?
I did speak with a Chubby rep and he mentioned his stove with a blower would do the job. I would prefer something a bit beefier if it will fit.
I did speak with a Chubby rep and he mentioned his stove with a blower would do the job. I would prefer something a bit beefier if it will fit.
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The back pipes are just thin-gauge sheet metal - usually made from stove pipe.
If need be, a new hole can be cut so that the back pipe outlet collar can be moved down and then a sheet metal cover screwed over the old outlet hole. Or, just get a new back pipe and put the holes where needed. The stoves in the range of 16 to 18 inch diameter firepots use 6 inch smoke pipe. Some of the smaller stoves use 5 inch.
Paul
If need be, a new hole can be cut so that the back pipe outlet collar can be moved down and then a sheet metal cover screwed over the old outlet hole. Or, just get a new back pipe and put the holes where needed. The stoves in the range of 16 to 18 inch diameter firepots use 6 inch smoke pipe. Some of the smaller stoves use 5 inch.
Paul
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You can fit the exhaust collar to clear the lintel in the fireplace. If you get one from a dealer, specify the height you require and they should fix it for you.
A Glenwood Oak 116 or 118 will do an excellent job for you.
A Glenwood Oak 116 or 118 will do an excellent job for you.
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It seems to me I would be pushing it a bit with the Chubby. So the recommendation is for the 116 or 118 with back pipe? I do have a large ceiling fan in the Living Room where the fireplace is so that should help move the heat into the outer rooms well.
Do you think one of these stoves will appear out of place in a 1959 Ranch?
Do you think one of these stoves will appear out of place in a 1959 Ranch?
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William how do you feel about the Glenwood Oak 20,30, or 40? I like the fact that it's more ornate and I believe can still be had with a back pipe. Is there an advantage to the Modern Oak?wsherrick wrote:You can fit the exhaust collar to clear the lintel in the fireplace. If you get one from a dealer, specify the height you require and they should fix it for you.
A Glenwood Oak 116 or 118 will do an excellent job for you.
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They are exactly the same stoves. The Glenwood Oak is the earlier model before the modern series came out in 1905. Both stoves have the same features, only the styling is different.
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Both the oaks and the modern oaks have the wonderful triangular grates.
And both can have a back pipe, but it was an option. So, not all are set up to have a back pipe. Those that came with the back pipe option have a pipe support base casting that bolts to the rear of the ash drawer. Plus, the rear nickeled skirting has a cutout to clear the pipe.
The main differences are, as you noted, the modern oak is not as decorative as the oak. And, the modern oak has a rotary secondary air damper with an air diffuser casting on the inside, called a "gas burner". But I'm not sure how much of an advantage it is over the oak's plain sliding damper.
Paul
And both can have a back pipe, but it was an option. So, not all are set up to have a back pipe. Those that came with the back pipe option have a pipe support base casting that bolts to the rear of the ash drawer. Plus, the rear nickeled skirting has a cutout to clear the pipe.
The main differences are, as you noted, the modern oak is not as decorative as the oak. And, the modern oak has a rotary secondary air damper with an air diffuser casting on the inside, called a "gas burner". But I'm not sure how much of an advantage it is over the oak's plain sliding damper.
Paul
Only William would refer to 1905 stoves as the "modern series."wsherrick wrote:They are exactly the same stoves. The Glenwood Oak is the earlier model before the modern series came out in 1905. Both stoves have the same features, only the styling is different.
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William what would the equivalent be in the Oak Series 20 or 30?wsherrick wrote:You can fit the exhaust collar to clear the lintel in the fireplace. If you get one from a dealer, specify the height you require and they should fix it for you.
A Glenwood Oak 116 or 118 will do an excellent job for you.
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William might be working so I'll jump in.ASea wrote:William what would the equivalent be in the Oak Series 20 or 30?wsherrick wrote:You can fit the exhaust collar to clear the lintel in the fireplace. If you get one from a dealer, specify the height you require and they should fix it for you.
A Glenwood Oak 116 or 118 will do an excellent job for you.
With the Modern Oak models.
#112 = 12inch
#114 = 14 inch
#116 = 16 inch
#118 = 18 inch
With the Oaks,
#20 = 14 inch
#30 = 16 inch
#40 = 18 inch
#50 = 20 inch.
That's the outside diameter of the fire pots. With a one inch thick liner take off about 2/1/2 inches from those numbers.
Paul
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Ahhhhh the rare and illusive oak 50 how I long for one in my basement.
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as an intermittent chill chaser ?!? talk about over kill.Canaan coal man wrote:Ahhhhh the rare and illusive oak 50 how I long for one in my basement.
if I ever see one i'll let ya know
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William might be working so I'll jump in.
With the Modern Oak models.
#112 = 12inch
#114 = 14 inch
#116 = 16 inch
#118 = 18 inch
With the Oaks,
#20 = 14 inch
#30 = 16 inch
#40 = 18 inch
#50 = 20 inch.
That's the outside diameter of the fire pots. With a one inch thick liner take off about 2/1/2 inches from those numbers.
Paul[/quote]
So for 1800 sqft which size would you Gentlemen recommend?
With the Modern Oak models.
#112 = 12inch
#114 = 14 inch
#116 = 16 inch
#118 = 18 inch
With the Oaks,
#20 = 14 inch
#30 = 16 inch
#40 = 18 inch
#50 = 20 inch.
That's the outside diameter of the fire pots. With a one inch thick liner take off about 2/1/2 inches from those numbers.
Paul[/quote]
So for 1800 sqft which size would you Gentlemen recommend?
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if you go off the info in the 10th post of this great thread you have about 14,400 c.f. of space to heat and so need an 18.5" firepot in a base heater / burner.
also consider the comments in post 13 on that same page.
Favorite Baseburner #261
or, you might be able to do something else I can't say for sure cause every install and situation is different.
also consider the comments in post 13 on that same page.
Favorite Baseburner #261
or, you might be able to do something else I can't say for sure cause every install and situation is different.
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Refractory liners were an option, I believe, so if coal has been used in it's lifetime check the pot for over heat damage on these oak types stoves. High, front and center...just below the load door can be one area.