Home Stove Works #25 Base Burner Restoration

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Post Fri. Nov. 10, 2017 2:04 pm

Pauliewog wrote:
Fri. Nov. 10, 2017 9:51 am
Bagged Susquehanna nut. I was thinking of trying some stove but im not sure how it will spread out with the small firepot and magazine.

Paulie
Maybe try a mix of stove and nut and see how that feeds before going with all stove size ? The stove size will reduce the fuel density within the stove, but with the mag it's now much more coal available than needed to help extend the present tending time intervals.

I'm wondering if going with the stove size, with it's larger spaces, would be a good trade off that might give longer run times before the ash buildup starts to drop the temps ????

Paul


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Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite
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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 6:28 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Fri. Nov. 10, 2017 2:04 pm
Maybe try a mix of stove and nut and see how that feeds before going with all stove size ? The stove size will reduce the fuel density within the stove, but with the mag it's now much more coal available than needed to help extend the present tending time intervals.

I'm wondering if going with the stove size, with it's larger spaces, would be a good trade off that might give longer run times before the ash buildup starts to drop the temps ????

Paul
I tried a few combinations ranging from straight stove coal down to about 20% stove and 80% nut.

Running 100% stove on the coldest days gave me a steady 550* but required some poking around the bottom of the magazine to keep the firepot filled. This was largely due to the small firepot. The larger pieces of stove coal had a problem spreading out to fill the pot to the top. The best results were with mixing in approx 20% stove.

It's been humming along like a charm the past few weeks and averaging about 50 lbs a day.

On Thanksgiving with 26 family members over for dinner and two windowstats
open, I was forced to throw on about 10 lbs of rice coal to calm it down a bit. :lol:

Dinner was at 2:00PM so of course at 1:00 I just had to go downstairs and open it up wide and let it roar for the benefit of the guests who choose to heat their homes with electric, gas, or oil. :lol:
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Steve....... Here is a view of the Blue Ladies doing their thing !
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This one is with lights out and me relaxing with an adult beverage at the end of the day.

Paulie
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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 7:24 pm

WOW, very nice Paulie!
Keep on drinking a good Nestly Quik :) :D :lol: like all adult men do.

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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 8:28 pm

Is that fly ash covering the magazine Paulie?

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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 8:34 pm

nortcan wrote:
Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 7:24 pm
WOW, very nice Paulie!
Keep on drinking a good Nestly Quik :) :D :lol: like all adult men do.
Thanks Pierre, I cheated...... Dumped Coors Light in my hot chocolate mug. :lol:

Paulie

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Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite
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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 8:38 pm

scalabro wrote:
Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 8:28 pm
Is that fly ash covering the magazine Paulie?
Yeah Scott ...... I get a little lazy and sometimes shake it down without opening up the draft :lol:

Might have something to do with the consumption of alcohol too. :o

Then I have to dust off all the mica ! :cry:

Paulie

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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 8:44 pm

Hi Paulie! I'm late to the party but never too late to look at your latest piece of art. Thanks for doing what you do!

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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 9:09 pm

michaelanthony wrote:
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Hi Paulie! I'm late to the party but never too late to look at your latest piece of art. Thanks for doing what you do!
Never too late my friend ! I just spent the last hour looking for those 3 blue lights you were talking about and still didn't find them !

Now you have me yearning for Pasta Fagioli. :yes:

Paulie


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Post Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 10:04 pm

Stove looks fantastic, Paulie !

Ya just made me hungry. It's been over 35 years since I had a good pasta fagioli. I used to work with a guy from Naples that made a pasta fagioli that was additive !!!!

Paul

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Post Fri. Dec. 01, 2017 7:55 pm

Hi Paulie, what's happening ?

have you decided you like those clam shell grates ?

any other new tending practice to share about the #25 ?

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Post Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 12:33 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
Tue. Nov. 28, 2017 10:04 pm
Stove looks fantastic, Paulie !

Ya just made me hungry. It's been over 35 years since I had a good pasta fagioli. I used to work with a guy from Naples that made a pasta fagioli that was additive !!!!

Paul
Thanks Paul........... I showed your post to Carol and if all goes well and I'm a really good boy this week ............... She may just treat me to a big pot using her grams prized recipe. Yummy Yummy :angel:

Paulie

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Post Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 1:00 am

Is it a family secret recipe ?

Can you post the recipe and not be subject to bodily harm from a family member ? :D


Paul

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Post Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 1:14 am

KingCoal wrote:
Fri. Dec. 01, 2017 7:55 pm
Hi Paulie, what's happening ?

have you decided you like those clam shell grates ?

any other new tending practice to share about the #25 ?
Hi Steve ! Yes, I really prefer these clamshell grates to the center draw type.

The only difference in tending so far are nights such as this where the oat dips into the 20*'s. I'm running the air handler on the stoker to circulate the heat upstairs.

In order to maintain 72* to 74* upstairs I'm running the stove temp about 650*.

With one inch of refractory, it's really only an 11" pot so I give it a good shakedown before I go to sleep and 6 to 8 hours later when I get up in the morning.

The technique I use works great with the magazine.
Lifting the clamshell center grate and sliding the outer ring grate back and forth creates an igloo of sorts in the coal bed. As the coal above it burns, it weakens the top and sides. The weight of the coal in the magazine collapses the bed and spreads the fresh fuel across the pot.

Because the coal burns to a dust, when the bed drops, most of the fine ash falls right thru the grate and into the ash pan.

There is a noticeable difference in the amount of ash in the ash pan from when I shake it down before going to bed and when I get up in the morning.


This seems to give me another 2 hours or so of consistent stove temperature before it starts to ash up.

Paulie
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Post Sat. Dec. 02, 2017 1:23 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
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Is it a family secret recipe ?

Can you post the recipe and not be subject to bodily harm from a family member ? :D


Paul
I will ask her when she is a safe distance from the knive drawer. :o

I see no reason at all not to share it with my extended family here. :D

Paulie

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Post Tue. Dec. 05, 2017 1:36 am

Wren wrote:
Fri. Nov. 10, 2017 1:33 pm
Beautiful. It is amazing that those stoves are so ingenious and beautiful at the same time. And still in use. Just amazing.
Thanks Jenny, They advertised them as "Built for a lifetime" and with a little bit of care hopefully it will make a few lifetimes.

My son burns coal in his home also and when I pass on this stove will be handed down to him and his son.

It spent it's first one hundred years in one family, and hopefully its next hundred years in ours. :D

Paulie


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