PP Stewart No 14

Post Reply
User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Tue. Feb. 25, 2014 8:28 pm

Grabbed this Stewart base burner today.

Now I need to build another chimney on the other end of the house.

I think all it's missing is its top ring.

:dancing: :up:
Attachments
image.jpg
image.jpg
image.jpg
image.jpg
image.jpg
Last edited by scalabro on Wed. Feb. 26, 2014 6:43 am, edited 1 time in total.


User avatar
SWPaDon
Member
Posts: 9966
Joined: Sun. Nov. 24, 2013 12:05 pm
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace
Location: Southwest Pa.

Post Tue. Feb. 25, 2014 8:48 pm

Gekko wrote:Grabbed this Stewart base burner

Now I need to build another chimney on the other end of the house.

:dancing: :up:
Just be sure to stand it upright before firing. :shock: ;)

Nice looking stove.

User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Wed. Feb. 26, 2014 1:36 pm

Thank you Sir.

User avatar
kstone
Member
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed. Dec. 21, 2011 10:04 am
Baseburners & Antiques: Andes 14 crown
Coal Size/Type: nut
Location: plymouth mass

Post Wed. Feb. 26, 2014 2:04 pm

look like nice stove does it have the back pipe or is it full base burner?

User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Wed. Feb. 26, 2014 3:05 pm

Hi Kstone,

It is an internally bypassed full base heater/burner. The back pipe is only used to exhaust gases not to recirculate them. It is almost indentical gas path wise to a Glenwood 111 with its rear ash clean out doors. The fire pot measures 10 wide by 14 deep. The barrel is 30 inches high x 13&1/2 wide. It is slightly larger than a Crawford no. 2 Also it has an area for cooking (I think) and a Glenwood 111 upper ring seems to be almost made for it.

As soon as I see a casting date I'll post that up.
Attachments
image.jpg

User avatar
kstone
Member
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed. Dec. 21, 2011 10:04 am
Baseburners & Antiques: Andes 14 crown
Coal Size/Type: nut
Location: plymouth mass

Post Wed. Feb. 26, 2014 3:19 pm

very nice find. looks to be a lot off BTU's for a small foot print

User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 1:08 pm

Found out today that after Philo Penfield Stewart died in 1868 that the PP Stewart co. dropped the PP and just used the name Stewart.

But I found a 1901 newspaper that advertises "PP Stewart" Cooking Ranges.

Don't know if the cooking range names were changed at a later date.

So this stove could possibly be made before Philo passed in 1868?

This stove has no secondary air adjustment controls, thereby pointing to it being an early stove?

Maybe someone with knowledge will chime in?

I hope so.

Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 12902
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Location: Central NY

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 3:06 pm

Gekko wrote:Found out today that after Philo Penfield Stewart died in 1868 that the PP Stewart co. dropped the PP and just used the name Stewart.

But I found a 1901 newspaper that advertises "PP Stewart" Cooking Ranges.

Don't know if the cooking range names were changed at a later date.

So this stove could possibly be made before Philo passed in 1868?

This stove has no secondary air adjustment controls, thereby pointing to it being an early stove?

Maybe someone with knowledge will chime in?

I hope so.
Gekko,

It seems they were bought out and the Stewart name was used by Fuller &Warren in Troy NY. Take a look here,
http://www.hoxsie.org/2012/04/fuller-warren-co-stoves.html

My Brother-in-law-to-be has a "Service Stewart", Fuller & Warren coal/gas range that I covered on page 36, in the "Cookin' with Coal" thread - page.

Looks like Fuller & Warren were out in the Midwest and moved to Troy, or had factories in more than one place. A web search of "Stewart stoves" turns up a lot of Fuller & Warren parlor and range stoves with the trade mark name of "Stewart". From what I'm seeing on the web, some of the early type stoves made out west and the later designs say Troy NY.

Hope this helps.

Paul
Last edited by Sunny Boy on Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 3:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.


Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 12902
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Location: Central NY

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 3:15 pm

I just blew up the picture of the Fuller & Warren bill from that link and the date is 1860. The small print on top says, "Exclusive Manufacturers of Stewart's Air Tight Summer and Winter Cooking Stoves."

So Fuller & Warren's association with P.P. Stewart predates his death ?

By the way, there's supposed to be a lot of stove manufacturing info in the archives at the Albany Institute of History and Art museum in Albany. And likely more around the corner at the NY State Museum too.

Paul

Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 12902
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Location: Central NY

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Gekko wrote:Found out today that after Philo Penfield Stewart died in 1868 that the PP Stewart co. dropped the PP and just used the name Stewart.

But I found a 1901 newspaper that advertises "PP Stewart" Cooking Ranges.

Don't know if the cooking range names were changed at a later date.

So this stove could possibly be made before Philo passed in 1868?

This stove has no secondary air adjustment controls, thereby pointing to it being an early stove?

Maybe someone with knowledge will chime in?

I hope so.
Gekko,

It seems they were bought out and the Stewart name was used by Fuller &Warren in Troy NY. Take a look here,
http://www.hoxsie.org/2012/04/fuller-warren-co-stoves.html

My Brother-in-law-to-be has a "Service Stewart", Fuller & Warren coal/gas range that I covered on page 36, in the "Cookin' with Coal" thread.

Looks like Fuller & Warren were out in the Midwest and moved to Troy, or had factories in more than one place. A web search of "Stewart stoves" turns up a lot of Fuller & Warren parlor and range stoves with the trade mark name of "Stewart". From what I'm seeing on the web, some of the early type stoves made out west and the later designs say Troy NY.

Hope this helps.

Paul

User avatar
ONEDOLLAR
Verified Business Rep.
Posts: 1867
Joined: Thu. Dec. 01, 2011 6:09 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: 2014 Chubby Prototype
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Anthracite
Location: Sooner Country Oklahoma
Contact:

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 3:26 pm

Gekko

CONGRATS on your new toy! Did I not tell you that once you acquire your FIRST BB that "baseburneritis" will soon set in? Well my fellow Taxachusetts Gun Nut did I also not tell you there is NO CURE for this disease as well? All we can hope for is a wife (or significant other as the case may be) that understands this disease and is supportive or at least tolerant with it. :lol:

CONGRATS AGAIN!!

User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 6:11 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:I just blew up the picture of the Fuller & Warren bill from that link and the date is 1860. The small print on top says, "Exclusive Manufacturers of Stewart's Air Tight Summer and Winter Cooking Stoves."

So Fuller & Warren's association with P.P. Stewart predates his death ?

By the way, there's supposed to be a lot of stove manufacturing info in the archives at the Albany Institute of History and Art museum in Albany. And likely more around the corner at the NY State Museum too.

Paul
The stove does say on the back of it, "Fuller & Warren, Troy NY."

And it's my understanding that the reference to "PP Stewart" was changed to "Stewart" at some date after his death.

I believe, but can't verify, that it was manufactured before the turn of the century.

I did however the number 68 cast into one of the pieces....that would be crazy if it was made in 1868.

Every piece so far has "PPS 14" and some have "PPS 14 16", those could be common parts to both size stoves?

User avatar
scalabro
Member
Posts: 2935
Joined: Wed. Oct. 03, 2012 9:53 am
Baseburners & Antiques: 2 Crawford 40's, PP Stewart No. 14, Abendroth Bros "Record 40"
Coal Size/Type: Stove / Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.
Location: Western Massachusetts

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 6:15 pm

ONEDOLLAR wrote:Gekko

CONGRATS on your new toy! Did I not tell you that once you acquire your FIRST BB that "baseburneritis" will soon set in? Well my fellow Taxachusetts Gun Nut did I also not tell you there is NO CURE for this disease as well? All we can hope for is a wife (or significant other as the case may be) that understands this disease and is supportive or at least tolerant with it. :lol:

CONGRATS AGAIN!!
I got it bad, it's a good thing I have not hit the powerball or I'd start a museum.

Any advise on how to convince wifey to agree to another masonry chimney?

:up:

User avatar
SWPaDon
Member
Posts: 9966
Joined: Sun. Nov. 24, 2013 12:05 pm
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous
Other Heating: Oil furnace
Location: Southwest Pa.

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 6:52 pm

Gekko wrote:
ONEDOLLAR wrote:Gekko

CONGRATS on your new toy! Did I not tell you that once you acquire your FIRST BB that "baseburneritis" will soon set in? Well my fellow Taxachusetts Gun Nut did I also not tell you there is NO CURE for this disease as well? All we can hope for is a wife (or significant other as the case may be) that understands this disease and is supportive or at least tolerant with it. :lol:

CONGRATS AGAIN!!
I got it bad, it's a good thing I have not hit the powerball or I'd start a museum.

Any advise on how to convince wifey to agree to another masonry chimney?

:up:
Don't say it's a chimney. Tell her it's the tower to hold the antenna for the Amateur band radio :) Then when she says no tower, just say 'ok honey, i'll make it into a chimney. ;)

Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 12902
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Location: Central NY

Post Thu. Feb. 27, 2014 7:30 pm

Interesting how many NY built stoves turn up in Massachusetts, . . and how many Massachusetts built stoves turn up in NY. :D

Paul


Post Reply

Return to “Antiques, Baseburners, Kitchen Stoves, Restorations & Modern Reproductions”