My New Crawford!

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Post Sat. Feb. 08, 2014 3:56 pm

Gekko wrote:We can shoot the P7.
Cheers
YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOO!! Like a KID in a CANDY STORE!!


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Post Sat. Feb. 08, 2014 5:01 pm

wsherrick wrote:I guess you can use the Harman for a door stop or maybe a card table.
Now THAT, was funny!

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Post Sat. Feb. 08, 2014 7:45 pm

^^ :lol: ^^

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Post Wed. Feb. 12, 2014 7:24 am

Today's report @ 0600 before reload.
Woke up to a kitchen that was 68*
Not bad for a 100+ year old lady.

OAT = -3
Draft = .10
Barrel top 475
Barrel bottom 525
Stack 175
Base mode
MPD closed
Check closed
Primary, 1/2 open
Secondary, just cracked

Mrs. Crawford makes plenty of heat to keep a 2450 sq ft house warm all on her own.

The only shortcoming if any, is my house is too large.

I can just get a 12 burn on these single digit overnights.

I have spoken to Emery and even though he is going to go through the G111, I asked him to keep an eye out for a Crawford No 3/30.

Just because it would have a larger fire pot to give me the burn times at higher temps that this house requires on these colder overnights.

I Really like the look of the Crawford stoves.

You guys have seen the pics of where the stove is in my house, would a Crawford 40 look silly?

Ideally I would like to have a stove that will be capable of heating the house with no help from the oil furnace, ever.

Thanks to all who have offered help in this situation!

Cheers,
Scott

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Post Wed. Feb. 12, 2014 8:31 am

I don't think a #4/#40 would look silly, the finial would stick up in front of your mirror a bit more, that's the only negative, and the width would cover more of the fireplace opening but, that might look better. Bottom line is you'd be warmer for longer between loadings..

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Post Wed. Feb. 19, 2014 9:23 am

How big is the room your looking to put the Crawford 40 in. It will roast you out of there unless some of that heat can get upstairs or into other rooms pretty quickly. It would look awesome there, not too big. The Crawford 30 is a great step up and will give you long burn times. In single digit weather, even if you don't add more coal, removing ash 3 times a day will keep the stove running hotter and that may do the trick for you. Just a little shaking in the middle of a cycle and topping off will keep temps from cooling in the ridiculous cold temps. The larger stoves don't need ash removal 3 times as the firepot is larger. Give it a shot and see if it helps.

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Post Wed. Feb. 19, 2014 10:09 am

Hi Brian,

I think the room is about 550 - 600 sqft .

Yes I do need to cut a ceiling grate or two, I just have not had the time.

I have Emery rebuilding a Glenwood 111 with an extended barrel for me, so we will see how that goes next year.

I know the 4/40 has the oven on top (the 111has a small one IIRC) so that's a plus, not sure about the 3/30.

I really do like the appearance of the Crawford (so does momma!) and if I find a 3/30 or 4/40 I'm going to purchase!

Thanks,
Scott

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Post Fri. Feb. 21, 2014 1:39 pm

Great stove choice. I'll keep my ears open for another Crawford 30, 40. I've decided to sell my Herald Oak No. 18 I got last season. I'm going to try and source a Crawford 50 and put it downstairs. There's a lot of space down there that we are not using.


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Post Sat. Feb. 22, 2014 1:37 pm

BPatrick wrote:Great stove choice. I'll keep my ears open for another Crawford 30, 40. I've decided to sell my Herald Oak No. 18 I got last season. I'm going to try and source a Crawford 50 and put it downstairs. There's a lot of space down there that we are not using.
Thank you Brian and good hunting for the 50.

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Some figures on this warm sunny day in Southwick...

OAT 53*

Draft .05

MPD closed

In base mode

Check damper fully open

Secondary fully open

Primary fully closed

Exh pipe @ 150* after MPD

Barrel temp @ 250*

Firepot about 1/3 full and I can see coal is glowing dim so it looks like these stove really can hold a very low fire.

There is no way I can think of to slow it down further other than throwing some pea on top.

I wonder how high ambient temps will have to get and low I can run this before it will extinguish it self?

I love Crawford base heaters!

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Post Sat. Feb. 22, 2014 1:54 pm

That's a pretty good draft number for just ticking along like that with the primary and MPD fully closed. What happens if you close the secondary more ?

Does that stove also have a check damper ?

I have read in some of the old stove operating info that putting some ashes on top helps slow a hot running stove.

Paul

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Post Sat. Feb. 22, 2014 2:05 pm

You can't make it go out running it like that. It will maintain like this for two days or so on a full load of coal.

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Post Sat. Feb. 22, 2014 2:27 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:That's a pretty good draft number for just ticking along like that with the primary and MPD fully closed. What happens if you close the secondary more ?

Does that stove also have a check damper ?

I have read in some of the old stove operating info that putting some ashes on top helps slow a hot running stove.

Paul
Hi Paul,

I must be blessed with a wicked good chimney:)

I have the secondary open to lower the draft through the coal bed, this acts like the check damper except its on the hot side of the fire instead of the cold side...if I close it the coals begin to get hotter.

Yes, the stove has a primary air check damper.

Scott
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Post Sat. Feb. 22, 2014 2:31 pm

wsherrick wrote:You can't make it go out running it like that. It will maintain like this for two days or so on a full load of coal.
Obi Wan!

As soon as we get a forecast of several days in the upper thirties/low forties I'm certainly going to try my best to run as long and as low as she will allow.

Hope you are enjoying the warm respite.

Scott

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Post Sun. Feb. 23, 2014 3:38 pm

You will find out that it will burn as long as there is any fuel in it. Your fire is situated in it's own thermos bottle of insulating heat. You don't need wood for the Fall or Spring, this stove design will cover the whole heating season.

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Post Tue. Feb. 25, 2014 11:14 am

William, I agree, when I first got the Crawford going it wasn't getting warm enough and after the learning curve, I have figured out that on cold days I let the stove get at or over 500 before shutting down. On more mild winter days, when we rarely get one :x , I get the stove going shake it down and wait until the flames are really going and tall, then around 350 I shut it down, it will spike up and then settle in around 350 for a long, long burn. In the shoulder months I'll wait to get the tall blue flames then shut it down around 300, this will give me 250-300. I keep looking at it thinking it will go out, but it doesn't, it drives my wife nuts because I'll look at it every hour.


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