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Post by McGiever » Sat. Apr. 06, 2013 9:55 pm

Here is an early advertisement/explanation on the stove I have acquired.
11-19-1909_5_Favorite Explanation.pdf
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And here's a couple pics.
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Here's a Model #514...The one I have is a Model #513
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Post by franco b » Sat. Apr. 06, 2013 10:18 pm

Congratulations on what looks to be a very interesting stove.

 
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Post by McGiever » Sat. Apr. 06, 2013 10:22 pm

Thanks Richard :)

It has a huge suspended firepot...I'll get a measurement soon.
This has 2 primary air inlets where most other BB's I have seen have just 1.

 
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Post by franco b » Sat. Apr. 06, 2013 11:05 pm

That big fire pot is why they had to design the most effective heat exchange system they could with limited space to do it and without choking the draft too much. Being fully enclosed and so staying hotter than an exposed fire pot it should do a better job at low burn rates. Having the magazine is also nice.

The grate also appears to be the Ransom duplex type that Nortcan likes so much.

Looking forward to more pictures and your review when you get it burning.

 
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Post by LsFarm » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 12:41 am

Hi MG, yep I saw that one disappear from CG's List. :o :D

The 'bonnet' is missing from the stove, did the seller find one, or do you have a source to find one. ?

I think you'll find that the firepot is about 15"

Take a photo of the back of the stove if you would, I couldn't get the seller to send me additional photos,
I'm curious if the stove is a double heater or not..
EDIT: I see from the .pdf ad you attached, that the stove does have the double heater function.

This will be a great heating stove. Are you going to disassemble it and reseal it?
Or does it appear that it's been properly redone already. ?

Good buy on the stove. Congrats.

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Post by dcrane » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 6:32 am

That looks like a seriously "high end" stove of its day! I cant DL the damb info pak :cry:
can we have some more pics, rear, inside, etc. when your able please!
how much was it as I never had the chance to see the CL ad (or whatever ad you guys are talking about?)

If its a base burner I think its the sexiest one ive ever seen... HOLY MICAFICATION :shock: ... that thing must look gorgeous lite up! Gratz!

 
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Post by McGiever » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 9:36 am

The CL ad had it listed as a wood stove. :)

Sadly it is missing it's " Reflector" or bonnet...this will be a tough piece to find...the " quest" has already begun. ;)
Also missing the cast decorative 90 degree elbow stove outlet piece and no foot rails either. :(

It will need taken apart and resealed, looks to have been refurbed to a nonburning show piece. Has plastic sheets for mica panels now.


 
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Post by LsFarm » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 10:02 am

Take a piece of cardboard and trace the top of the stove where the reflector/bonnet rests.. make a duplicate or two of the pattern,
PM me for my address and mail one to me,, I'll compare it to my Art Garland reflector/bonnet.. if it fits, I have one you could borrow to recast a repacement bonnet..
I'd mail a second pattern to the stove rebuilders out east, see if they have a reflector/bonnet in their parts piles..

Too bad you didn't pm me, You could have come by for a trial fit of the bonnet. I'm about 30-40 minutes west of where you bought that stove, I'm south of Flint by about 18 miles.

Both the Garland and Favorite were Detroit stoves.. Maybe, just Maybe some of the castings were shared.. it's possible.. and would help you
find the missing reflector..

Please take lots of photos of the dissassebly and rebuild of the stove.. We LOVE photos! :lol:
From the photos, the 'nickel' looks like silver paint?? or is it just the photo? You DO know the 'secret solution' for cleaning dulled nickel, right? :D

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Post by coalnewbie » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 11:01 am

WOW, great looking stove - great find.

 
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Post by Photog200 » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 3:56 pm

That is one beautiful stove and looks to be one of the more efficient ones with the double burner backs. I would not want to have to buy the mica glass for it though!

I saved the pdf file as a jpeg so I could post it for those who could not download the file.
Randy

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Post by dcrane » Sun. Apr. 07, 2013 6:06 pm

Photog200 wrote:That is one beautiful stove and looks to be one of the more efficient ones with the double burner backs. I would not want to have to buy the mica glass for it though!

I saved the pdf file as a jpeg so I could post it for those who could not download the file.
Randy
Be thankful all that glass is Mica and not Ceramic :shock: $1257.00 for Ceramic panes in that beast! :lol:

Great ad and great read Randy! TY!

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Apr. 08, 2013 2:24 am

Get your mica from Ashville Mica Supply Co. This is where I get mine and recommend you get yours also. They have the best quality for the best prices.

See link below.

Spotted Mica VS. Clelar Mica

One neat thing I noticed is that even the magazine is decorated with nice detail. I would consider having a copy of the magazine cast and keep the original as a master if anything should ever happen.

 
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Post by dcrane » Mon. Apr. 08, 2013 5:37 am

wsherrick wrote:Get your mica from Ashville Mica Supply Co. This is where I get mine and recommend you get yours also. They have the best quality for the best prices.

See link below.

Spotted Mica VS. Clelar Mica

One neat thing I noticed is that even the magazine is decorated with nice detail. I would consider having a copy of the magazine cast and keep the original as a master if anything should ever happen.
that firepot is the first thing I'd make sure was available as a re-cast but William is right about that magazine taking a beating too (these appear almost new to me :shock: maybe its the photo's or im wondering if these are parts were replaced by someone or does this stuff seriously hold up that well after 100 years)? Having a Cast Iron Firepot is fantastic! (this was clearly a very high end stove of its day).

 
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Post by McGiever » Mon. Apr. 08, 2013 2:39 pm

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Yes, it is silver paint, not nickle.

I did measure the fire-pot, it is 13-1/2" dia. ...but wow, it still holds a lot of coal, figuring it is stacked from the grate up into the the top of the magazine loading door.

Edit to add: In my hast...I might have measured the tapered bottom of the fire-pot...it was still in packing from being transported. :roll:

 
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Post by wsherrick » Mon. Apr. 08, 2013 3:33 pm

I did some checking with some other stove folks and I was informed that your model is a pretty rare model. On the good side it is a very desirable stove. On the bad side, it's going to be extremely hard to find the missing parts you are looking for. But I wouldn't dispair over much. The stove is usable and you can be blown away by the efficiency and high degree of engineering that this stove provides.


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