Bringing New Life to My New Gem Dockash Stove

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Photog200
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 7:42 pm

Wiz wrote:Wow looks great, nice job
Thank you Wiz, it was a labor of love bringing her back to life.


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Photog200
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 7:47 pm

stovehospital wrote:Now that looks great. Sorry about barking about the rope but I have had quite a few rope repairs lately that did major damage to the stove. That stove will heat your home for another generation or two with no complaints.
Thanks Steve, no problem about the rope, I understand. I have to run out and buy a couple of 45's tomorrow as I want to bring the stove into the room farther. My other stove came into the room another foot because of the way the pipe came out of it. If all goes well, she should be hooked up tomorrow, and just in time...they are calling for single digits at night for the weekend.
Randy

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Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 7:58 pm

The stove is looking great! Interested to see what you think of her when shes up and running.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 8:12 pm

Smokeyja wrote:The stove is looking great! Interested to see what you think of her when shes up and running.
Thanks Smokeyja. I have never burned coal before so I am sure I have a learning curve ahead of me. I am looking forward to the coal heat again...the electric heat is on now.

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Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 9:08 pm

Nice job, the stoves looks ready! Be aware you will experience some burn off from the new coatings on the stove. Fans and windows ready and enjoy the warmth from coal heat. Mike.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
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Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Thu. Feb. 14, 2013 9:20 pm

michaelanthony wrote:Nice job, the stoves looks ready! Be aware you will experience some burn off from the new coatings on the stove. Fans and windows ready and enjoy the warmth from coal heat. Mike.
Thanks Michael, I already dug the window fan out of storage! Hopefully tomorrow...

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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 3:50 am

It looks like you've done a good job on the stove. It actually is a super nice one. The loading door is just beautiful.
Make a few small fires at first to, 1. Cure the paint. It will fill your house up with stinky fumes and smoke for awhile, then it will go away. 2. You must heat up the new lining in the fire pot slowly so the latent moisture in it can boil out. A slow fire will allow the clay to harden and cure.

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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 5:20 am

wsherrick wrote:It looks like you've done a good job on the stove. It actually is a super nice one. The loading door is just beautiful.
Make a few small fires at first to, 1. Cure the paint. It will fill your house up with stinky fumes and smoke for awhile, then it will go away. 2. You must heat up the new lining in the fire pot slowly so the latent moisture in it can boil out. A slow fire will allow the clay to harden and cure.
Thank you William for the kind words. I agree that the loading door is just beautiful, it is full of mica glass so it should have a beautiful glow. I mis-calculated how much mica glass it would take so am waiting for the new order to come in to finish it. The small door just above that had nickel trim just on the grill and the background behind the grill was black. I think I am going to take the grill off and paint it silver as the black paint next to the polished cast iron does not match in color. I am very happy how it turned out, the only thing that would have made me more happy is if it was a base heater!

Randy


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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 3:50 pm

Randy,
I understand the lust for a baseburner or the lack of an indirect back pipe on your stove, BUT get your stove fired up and you will fall in love with her for what she is and that is a awesome pc. of American heat making History!, you got yourself a GREAT stove and with a MPD in your exhaust pipe she will make great, comfortable, affordable heat that you will never want to be without ever again! :D
Congrats!
Tim

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Location: Fulton, NY

Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 4:02 pm

Tim wrote:Randy,
I understand the lust for a baseburner or the lack of an indirect back pipe on your stove, BUT get your stove fired up and you will fall in love with her for what she is and that is a awesome pc. of American heat making History!, you got yourself a GREAT stove and with a MPD in your exhaust pipe she will make great, comfortable, affordable heat that you will never want to be without ever again! :D
Congrats!
Tim
Hey Tim, thank you! I am Very happy how the stove turned out, she really came back to life nicely. I just now finished the stove pipe and have started the first small fire in it to cure the refractory. Speaking of MPD, I had issues with the one I bought. I got the pipe all put together and I thought I had better see if the damper worked ok. I had to bend the bottom of the pipe to fit the oval so was not sure if it would turn well. I turned it back and forth and the damper came apart inside the pipe. I thought I did not lock it in right but it was a defective damper. Even out of the pipe if you turned it back and forth quickly it came apart. So another trip to the store to buy another one...CHEAP CHINA CRAP! It is suppose to get cold again here this weekend so I am glad to have a stove hooked up. The electric heat has been running for a couple of days now...OUCH!

Have a great weekend,
Randy

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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 5:32 pm

Welcome to the forum Randy. You will enjoy working with that stove. Nice one!
Keep on posting results.

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Baseburners & Antiques: Colonial Clarion cook stove, Kineo #15 base burner & 2 Geneva Oak Andes #517's
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 6:54 pm

nortcan wrote:Welcome to the forum Randy. You will enjoy working with that stove. Nice one!
Keep on posting results.
Thank you Nortcan, I am having the first fire in her tonight...cough, cough. Fan in the window...got to love stove polish!
I thoroughly enjoyed your thread while you were setting up the Golden Bride and I could not wait to get an older stove and revive the history behind these stoves. I feel blessed that I found this stove and was able to bring her home.

Randy

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Other Heating: Electric Baseboard
Location: Fulton, NY

Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 9:00 pm

All I can say is DAMN this thing puts out heat. I have the damper closed and the air intake closed and still 400 degrees. I think I need to replace the pins on the air intake door! Don't worry I won't use rope gasket....

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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 9:04 pm

So please educate me. "Why not rope gasket?"
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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 9:17 pm

Photog200 wrote:All I can say is DAMN this thing puts out heat. I have the damper closed and the air intake closed and still 400 degrees. I think I need to replace the pins on the air intake door! Don't worry I won't use rope gasket....
:D :lol: In some conditions, rope gasket can be the or one of the best solution. Sometime a metal on metal fit can be good but much more hard to get the perfect seal than with rope gasket. But when using rope gasket, the rope can be black colored and almost invisible. The most important thing to do is to respect the Antique value of a stove, so when making modifs ...like sealing with rope gasket, it's important to be able to get the stove back like it was on day one of it's life.
The doors sealings was so bad on the Golden Bride that I got 2 choices: having parts re-casted or placing rope gasket where it was the only one solution. Placing rope gasket was cheaper, less trouble and permit to keep the Original parts. A good sealing for the ash pit door is a must to be able to control the burning rate.
But if you don't like rope gasket, no problem with that, You'r the boss. Good luck and stay warm :)


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