Glenwood #6 Baseheater, Restoral Recommendations?

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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 10:12 am

I found a Glenwood #6 BaseHeater for sale and the price is right. Its lightly rusted and appears to be in reasonable condition for a 100 year old coal stove. Doors still fit properly and appear to be airtight. It is missing some pieces (ashpan, crank to turn the grates and top plate under the ornament, and who knows what else) and the firebrick lining the pot may need to be replaced. I emailed the Antique Stove Hospital in Rhode Island and am waiting for a response.

I'm in the New Hampshire area but was thinking that this forum would be the proper place to ask for any other recommendations on where to restore a stove or where to get spare parts. Thanks in advance

-Joe


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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 2:47 pm

You are on the right track contacting Emory over at the Antique Stove Hospital.I have purchased 2 Base heaters from them a Quaker#8 and a Wings Best #116.They are both good looking and powerful heaters.
colt.

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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 4:01 pm

You also need to check the bottom plate inside the ashpan to make sure it is not warped or broken. If it is broken, it possibly could be welded and there can be a little bit of warpage and the plate will still seal well. If there is severe damage there then there is a problem. The bottom plate is a hard part to replace so make sure it is in good shape. The crank and ashpan are easy to get.

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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 6:47 pm

colt wrote:You are on the right track contacting Emory over at the Antique Stove Hospital.I have purchased 2 Base heaters from them a Quaker#8 and a Wings Best #116.They are both good looking and powerful heaters.
colt.
If you don't mind we all would love to see pics of your stoves

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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 8:40 pm

I have some pics of the bottom plate...which looks like it has been repaired. Is that a weld? Looking inside the ashpan compartment as well as under the stove.
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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 9:08 pm

Looks like a nice repair compared to what I found had been done to my bottom pan a couple weeks ago when I took it apart. Mine even had one of the mounting corners completely broken off.

Do you plan to take it apart and refurbish it yourself ? I am spending an hour or two on mine in the evenings and thoroughly enjoy doing it. Need more Williams stove polish now but the sandblasting and repairs are coming along nicely.
Keith V
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Post Tue. Oct. 09, 2012 9:30 pm

TBH I have no plans to restore it myself at the moment. I don't really have the space needed to dismantle and give each piece the attention it needs as well as the equipment needed to restore rusty metal parts. Judging by pics of others stove restores posted here on this forum, I think its best to leave this up to a pro.

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Post Wed. Oct. 10, 2012 2:08 am

That is a good repair on the base plate. It is nice and level. I see no problems with it so I give you my blessings on buying this. I think you are doing the right thing by letting Emery restore it. It is well worth the price to have it done. He has a stove of mine that I am waiting for him to finish.
A Base Heater in perfect condition will give you a lifetime of easy use and the highest efficiency you can get in a coal stove.


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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 9:57 am

NJJoe, You never mentioned if you contacted Emory or not but I concure with William that Emory is the the guy to restore your stove. Had I not done mine myself, Emory would have. The reason I ask about contact is that Emory is usually flat out doing stoves at the time of year and e-mail is a tough way to get ahold of him. You are best off phoning until you speak to him. Getting it done fot this heating season will be tight. That said, you've got an excellent stove and will be very happy with it. Thwe repair to the floor pan was very well done and it's integrity looks sound.

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 9:59 am

Dennis wrote:
colt wrote:You are on the right track contacting Emory over at the Antique Stove Hospital.I have purchased 2 Base heaters from them a Quaker#8 and a Wings Best #116.They are both good looking and powerful heaters.
colt.
If you don't mind we all would love to see pics of your stoves
I'm with Dennis. Where are those pix Colt! We've been waiting for more then a year now. Post up mang. ;)

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 10:57 am

SteveZee wrote:NJJoe, You never mentioned if you contacted Emory or not but I concure with William that Emory is the the guy to restore your stove. Had I not done mine myself, Emory would have. The reason I ask about contact is that Emory is usually flat out doing stoves at the time of year and e-mail is a tough way to get ahold of him. You are best off phoning until you speak to him. Getting it done fot this heating season will be tight. That said, you've got an excellent stove and will be very happy with it. Thwe repair to the floor pan was very well done and it's integrity looks sound.
Steve:

Based on my dealings so far, I agree with everyone here on Emery's expertise. He recommends I do not buy the stove based on the condition of the repairs done to it. He cites examples of this model glenwood stove being prone to warping and damage in this section. I'm attempting to negotiate with the buyer again, I need to revisit her home and take a second picture of the bottom pan. But this time with the plate that is removable from the inside of the ash compartment removed. Removing that plates reveals the other side of the stove bottom plate . I have a feeling that he won't like the stove again even with the updated pic. I'll post it here for the forum's consideration too.

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 11:13 am

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NJJoe wrote:
SteveZee wrote:NJJoe, You never mentioned if you contacted Emory or not but I concure with William that Emory is the the guy to restore your stove. Had I not done mine myself, Emory would have. The reason I ask about contact is that Emory is usually flat out doing stoves at the time of year and e-mail is a tough way to get ahold of him. You are best off phoning until you speak to him. Getting it done fot this heating season will be tight. That said, you've got an excellent stove and will be very happy with it. Thwe repair to the floor pan was very well done and it's integrity looks sound.
Steve:

Based on my dealings so far, I agree with everyone here on Emery's expertise. He recommends I do not buy the stove based on the condition of the repairs done to it. He cites examples of this model glenwood stove being prone to warping and damage in this section. I'm attempting to negotiate with the buyer again, I need to revisit her home and take a second picture of the bottom pan. But this time with the plate that is removable from the inside of the ash compartment removed. Removing that plates reveals the other side of the stove bottom plate . I have a feeling that he won't like the stove again even with the updated pic. I'll post it here for the forum's consideration too.
Joe, Your probably right if you showed him the pix of the repair and he said not. He doesn't usually change his mind. That said, the stove (repair) looks pretty good to me and allot better then some I've heard about (based soley on the pix of course) (Ask Keith about that) Echo 67 and in fact I believe Keith got his from Emory but the caviot being unrestored and with full disclosure. Does Emory have anything he recomend that could replace your #6? What size of a space are you trying to heat?
Like you, I was also on the lookout for a #6 but eended up settling for the Modern Oak 116 that you see in my avatar. It has a divided back pipe that extends the exhaust path similar to what the #6 does and is the same sized stove (16" fire pot) also. I expect my stove to be comparable in heating ability or at least close enough to the #6 that I bought and restored it. You can see the restoration thread on page two I think "My new Glenwood Modern Oak 116".
Anyways what I'm getting at is while these are the Rolls Royce of hand feds, there are allot of Bentley's, Caddy's etc...out there too. Emory might have something else comparable like a Wings Best, a Quaker, a Herald, etc.. that are similar stoves and great examples of some of the best coal stoves ever made.

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 11:39 am

SteveZee wrote:"
NJJoe wrote: Steve:

Based on my dealings so far, I agree with everyone here on Emery's expertise. He recommends I do not buy the stove based on the condition of the repairs done to it. He cites examples of this model glenwood stove being prone to warping and damage in this section. I'm attempting to negotiate with the buyer again, I need to revisit her home and take a second picture of the bottom pan. But this time with the plate that is removable from the inside of the ash compartment removed. Removing that plates reveals the other side of the stove bottom plate . I have a feeling that he won't like the stove again even with the updated pic. I'll post it here for the forum's consideration too.
Joe, Your probably right if you showed him the pix of the repair and he said not. He doesn't usually change his mind. That said, the stove (repair) looks pretty good to me and allot better then some I've heard about (based soley on the pix of course) (Ask Keith about that) Echo 67 and in fact I believe Keith got his from Emory but the caviot being unrestored and with full disclosure. Does Emory have anything he recomend that could replace your #6? What size of a space are you trying to heat?
Like you, I was also on the lookout for a #6 but eended up settling for the Modern Oak 116 that you see in my avatar. It has a divided back pipe that extends the exhaust path similar to what the #6 does and is the same sized stove (16" fire pot) also. I expect my stove to be comparable in heating ability or at least close enough to the #6 that I bought and restored it. You can see the restoration thread on page two I think "My new Glenwood Modern Oak 116".
Anyways what I'm getting at is while these are the Rolls Royce of hand feds, there are allot of Bentley's, Caddy's etc...out there too. Emory might have something else comparable like a Wings Best, a Quaker, a Herald, etc.. that are similar stoves and great examples of some of the best coal stoves ever made.
Steve. Emery cited some equivalent models that heat as well as the Glenwood I am interested in. He steered me towards some brands that came after the glenwood but they built learned on glenwood's shortcomings. So I have a few models/brands to research; my search is no longer limited to only glenwood base heaters.

I have no intention to use this stove right now. This will go in storage in my basement and be installed in my next house. Current house is a two family house with 2 natural gas boilers and 2 natural gas water heaters all exhausting into 1 flue. There is no room to install this stove at my current place but I'm sure I will eventually find a use in the next house.

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 2:34 pm

update: the owner called back and told me she had a buyer waiting to buy the stove. I didnt want her to wait on me and Emery's final judgement so I said she could sell it. I'm sure one day I'll get a good stove for my house!

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Post Thu. Oct. 11, 2012 2:49 pm

If you have the time to look and have the money to have one restored, then take your time and be picky. As you said there are other equivalent base heaters. Crawfords and Heralds and the others are the exact same design as the Glenwood. And you may find a Glenwood that is perfect. I have two and they are both perfect. You will find one that fits your needs when it comes up. Please let us know when you find something.

Also, don't ignore the base heaters with the internally suspended fire pots. They come in all sizes from very small to large with the smaller ones being more common.


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