Glenwood No 9 Base Burner-(Hopefully) a Few Photos

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 11:43 am

coalnewbie wrote:
The first step is admitting you have a problem.
but, but you see I had no choice but to help out.... Well yes, I am waiting on a Glenny and a Herald that is true too but Wilson needed the money too... well he didn't actually need the money, I just thought he did at the time. Sigh.

I guess you guys have nailed me I do have a problem and it's a serious one perhaps it's a sign of inadequacy in some way that I need to fulfill. Perhaps it's an nonfixable mental issue that needs professional help. Perhaps I should phone Wilson and cancel the stoves that would be a step in the right direction wouldn't it now. OK, I had my morning coffee and looked hard into the mirror, facing the issue is the first step.

OK, I faced it and this is the resolution .... I will phone Wilson and asked him if he ever came across a Quaker #8 I would like to add that to my collection.

How am I doing???

PS, just an afterthought, let's take CT as an example. 50% of that state will never, ever be connected to NG. Propain and HO are the only games in town besides that wood stuff that is getting hard to get and very expensive. When I drive into the state the first sign states welcome to CT, 20' after that one is a white sign firewood regulated. So what is happening is that anthracite is becoming known as the ONLY fuel of choice. Baseburners/heaters are becoming rarer than hens teeth just try and get one and just to make it worse the plating costs are going through the roof thx to the EPA. So the value of these super efficient heaters will only go up up and away. WOW, that would mean I'm the only sane one here (I have long suspected that one) and all you guys are crazy instead.... nah, that can't be can it?

Oh Wilson where are you ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I slay myself.

Somebody has to buy and preserve them until others wake up !

Paul

confedsailor · Post by **confedsailor** » Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 12:36 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
PS, just an afterthought, let's take CT as an example. 50% of that state will never, ever be connected to NG.

But, But! Danniel promised we'd all get it! Yankee gas wouldn't even answer my emails....

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Thu. Sep. 18, 2014 1:37 pm

Yankee gas wouldn't even answer my emails..

Don't get upset sailor man. I happen to know that Yankee and Suburban propane owners both have mansions in the Hamptons. It's still good beach weather so they don't plan to return for another two weeks. If your nice to them they will then shake you down for every cent in your pockets so they can save up for next year. Just be patient.

Got coal.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Fri. Sep. 19, 2014 10:50 am

How perfect is this? Casserole anyone? Fake of course I bought it from Cracker Barrel some years ago and now it has a use. Heavy as hell. Any more ideas for kettles and or frying pans. Glenwood Ms should now weep. I am going to use this thing constantly, thank you William, it's right at home here. Never been used so what is the best way of prepping the surface. I have a source of organic Cornish game hens from a friend, cheap and good, mix with vegetables, set it up in the morning and by lunchtime - yummy. Damn where is the cold weather the stove needs to be crankin' --- cool --- grandmas soups 50 years later.

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Fri. Sep. 19, 2014 11:00 am

Nice find ! I think the stove designers took common cookware sizes into consideration.

I'm amazed at how many kettles, fry pans, and pots fit the 8 inch round covers and their openings of my range. May explain why there are so many ranges with 8 inch covers too. And not just the antique ones, but many of the newer pots and pans also fit well.

The antique water boiler my girl friend's mother used on their coal range for canning fits over two cover plates of their coal range and mine, perfectly. Had to have been designed to take advantage of that size and spacing.

The bottom of the new Dutch oven I recently bought is also a perfect match to the cover plates, even though they are over 100 years difference in manufacturing dates.

Nope, I don't think that is just all "pot luck" !

Paul

Photog200 · Post by **Photog200** » Fri. Sep. 19, 2014 4:55 pm

[quote="coalnewbie"] Never been used so what is the best way of prepping the surface.
That pot probably has a wax coating on it to prevent rust (at least it looks like it in the photo). That has to be cooked off...it will stink if you do it in the oven but I never have any other place to do it. Put foil down under the pot to collect the wax so it does not get in your oven. Messy job but the wax has to come off. Then you can season it just like any other cast iron pot.

Randy

Sunny Boy · Post by **Sunny Boy** » Fri. Sep. 19, 2014 5:16 pm

If it's paraffin wax, lacquer thinner, autobody pre-cleaner, or mineral spirits (paint thinner) will take it off (out doors).

Then just wash it in hot, soapy water. Dry it thoroughly and season it like any cast iron pot/pan.

Paul

wsherrick · Post by **wsherrick** » Fri. Sep. 19, 2014 6:42 pm

By the way I forgot to tell you, the No 9's name is, "Albert." It was named by my sister during a visit where I saw her for the first time in 25 years.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sat. Sep. 20, 2014 2:36 am

Seems a fitting name thank you, I will use it. However, I am more concerned that you need to reestablish the connection with your sister. Coal stoves are almost the center of the universe but family IS everything. If you say I did you a favor then reciprocate, reach out to your sister.

wsherrick · Post by **wsherrick** » Sat. Sep. 20, 2014 2:41 am

coalnewbie wrote:Seems a fitting name thank you, I will use it. However, I am more concerned that you need to reestablish the connection with your sister. Coal stoves are almost the center of the universe but family IS everything. If you say I did you a favor then reciprocate, reach out to your sister.

Thank you. As a matter of fact my sister who is a nurse is coming on September 29th, to stay until she is certain I am properly taken care of during my illness.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sat. Sep. 20, 2014 3:06 am

Your stove made my week but your post made my year. You have a lot of fans here William, take care of yourself.

ddahlgren · Post by **ddahlgren** » Sun. Sep. 13, 2015 3:04 pm

Just why do the old sages avoid numbers or some logical testing I just don't get it. I am not a doubting person but avoid 'trust me' at all costs. Skin temp useful for radiated heat and useless for stack temps. Here is another part of my disbelief. It was mentioned with a stack temp of 120 you could rest your hand on it like it was the wall. Here is an update 127F is generally the thresh hold of screaming from too hot for 99.9% of the population. 7F less must mean most nerve endings burned off to zero. I am sorry and in my mind all sage advice has to pass the smell test. I am willing to bet the 120 skin temp is actually 300 or more in the center where the flue gases live. I know mine are as measure both and suggest all do. Skin temps are the land of fantasy. If 90% combustion and 90% thermal both a reach you don't get past 81% total it's math it not voodoo.

wsherrick · Post by **wsherrick** » Sun. Sep. 13, 2015 3:30 pm

ddahlgren wrote:Just why do the old sages avoid numbers or some logical testing I just don't get it. I am not a doubting person but avoid 'trust me' at all costs. Skin temp useful for radiated heat and useless for stack temps. Here is another part of my disbelief. It was mentioned with a stack temp of 120 you could rest your hand on it like it was the wall. Here is an update 127F is generally the thresh hold of screaming from too hot for 99.9% of the population. 7F less must mean most nerve endings burned off to zero. I am sorry and in my mind all sage advice has to pass the smell test. I am willing to bet the 120 skin temp is actually 300 or more in the center where the flue gases live. I know mine are as measure both and suggest all do. Skin temps are the land of fantasy. If 90% combustion and 90% thermal both a reach you don't get past 81% total it's math it not voodoo.

Did I say that I put my hand on the pipe at 120? I looked, don't see it anywhere.
By the way I run these stoves around 450 and that leaves a pipe temperature of around 100-115. That is day in and day out. You can hold your hand on that quite easily for a good while. Your body temperature is 98.6 so that isn't much of a difference.

Post by **franco b** » Sun. Sep. 13, 2015 4:33 pm

120 degree water will scald you, but many live in 120 degree air as many in India and other places do. You can hold your hand on a 120 degree pipe which is a dramatic demonstration of the difference tight contact can make in heat transfer. The water burns because of the tight contact. I bet Samhill could describe working conditions hotter than that in the steel mills.

Smoke pipe skin temps are valid in the sense of how relative they are to inner temp. There is a relationship.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Sun. Sep. 13, 2015 7:23 pm

By the way I run these stoves around 450 and that leaves a pipe temperature of around 100-115. That is day in and day out.

Month in month out and get ready to prove it. I am ready for winter as long as I have good stoves to play with. Get the house heat soaked and it's heaven all winter. However, screw up and let it go down to 40* (as a friend of mine did last winter) and it takes three days to recover. As I said Our Glenwood #9 rules in the cuff season.

Glenwood No 9 Base Burner-(Hopefully) a Few Photos

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