I Have My Base Burner (BB)

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Post Wed. Jun. 22, 2011 11:20 am

VigII, they will let you cross the border with the 3 T. of ant. but they will count the nuts and check underneath to be sure you don't bring us, drugs or rifles ( like a Henry).
Don't forget to call before coming and a last request, could you bring Blaschak nut? I know I may look fussy but...
Wecome all to Québec. Don't forget to bring your own beer and Steve. The more you will be the fastest you will finish the job LOL.


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Post Thu. Jun. 23, 2011 1:56 pm

Nortcan, here are some pics of my chimney installation, while the chimney may look higher than the peak of the house it really isn't it's just the angle that I took the picture from. I know the chimney should be higher but it draws fine the way it is. As you can see I only have one section of 30" metalbestos on the outside, two more in the attic and three 24" sections of stovepipe inside the house. Total of 13.5ft of chimney.

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Post Thu. Jun. 23, 2011 10:31 pm

Thanks coalvet for the photos. Nice installation.
In fact the chimney serving for the VigII is very like yours( see P.18, second photo). The first photo in the same page is where the new one will be, on the lower roof. Having the house's wall at the left obligate me to go higher and because almost all the chinmey is outside of the roof (P.26, from inside you see the plywood of the roof at about 15" from the ceiling) I should have some braces/supports. The chimney is just held by sitting on the interior decorative chimney's support and will have about 12 Ft H.

Your stove intrigates me very much. Is it a cast iron or steel plate one? Could you please if you want send us closer photos and also some showing the inside...grates...
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Post Thu. Jun. 23, 2011 10:42 pm

Today I received the Flitz polish/cleaner for the nickel. The only place where I could find it was from Home Hardware near here but they had to order it. The product seems to make a nice job. On the new nickeled parts, when touched with hand, it had a tendency to oxidize, don't know if it's normal but the flitz polish is supposed to protect the metal from oxidation???
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Post Thu. Jun. 23, 2011 10:46 pm

Real purtty my friend & hopefullt it will help w/ the oxidation problem ;)

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Post Thu. Jun. 23, 2011 10:56 pm

freetown fred wrote:Real purtty my friend & hopefullt it will help w/ the oxidation problem ;)
Thanks fred. I think some use that product on bike's chromed parts. I remember when I had a Colt 45 s. auto.pistol. It was bright polished chrome and every time you touched it, you could see you fingerprints on it. Really not practical but it WAS so nice. On the tube they write it can be use on the blue arms metal to protect it.

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 6:21 am

just for the record--the best thing I ever used on the Old Harley, is "Mothers" paste polish:)

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 7:30 am

[quote=Your stove intrigates me very much. Is it a cast iron or steel plate one? Could you please if you want send us closer photos and also some showing the inside...grates...[/quote]

Coalvet's stove looks like a Crane 404s. I believe these were made with mostly steel and some cast parts too. The doors and control knobs would be the cast iron parts. Looks like a heavy unit. They had a huge S shapped shaker bar on them. It looked like you could shake the grates with your foot like a pedal.


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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 2:52 pm

freetown fred wrote:just for the record--the best thing I ever used on the Old Harley, is "Mothers" paste polish:)
was it a paste or liquid product? I was looking for a product specifying for nickel (Flitz is). I don't know if it's right but I saw somewhere that nickel was the finition (layer) on metal just before the chrome one, so the nickel was more fragile than chrome??????????

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 2:55 pm

SteveZee wrote:
Your stove intrigates me very much. Is it a cast iron or steel plate one? Could you please if you want send us closer photos and also some showing the inside...grates...[/quote wrote:
Coalvet's stove looks like a Crane 404s. I believe these were made with mostly steel and some cast parts too. The doors and control knobs would be the cast iron parts. Looks like a heavy unit. They had a huge S shapped shaker bar on them. It looked like you could shake the grates with your foot like a pedal.
And the stove seems having no legs??? or has a sort of base??? I like the front look of that stove and hope coalvet will send some photos of it and how the interior is made. If from cast iron/steel, that could be a less expensive way to make a new BEST stove and could mix the "good" points from the Vermont Castings VigII and remove the poor ones. The Vig II with it's SBB (Sides Back Burner) is just like a Base Burner, the very long gasses path is the main part of the high efficiency.

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 5:02 pm

Nortcan, ask and you shall receive. The Crane is a heavy gauge welded steel stove with a second welded liner in the back for heated air with fan. The doors and front panel as well as the sides are decorative heavy cast iron. The inner cast iron firepot sets on a steel lip all the way around the inside perimeter. It lifts out if you want to burn wood. The only thing I would have changed is the shaker design, just not that effective. Hence the need to poke and slice from underneath.

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 6:04 pm

Interesting set up Coalvet, Shame they didn't make it (as a company) cause they tried to innovate. I thought the electric shaker option was kind of funny! The pdf (Almanac) was cool too.

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Thanks Rich for the nice photos. You have a very nice and probably rare stove. First time I see a stove like your's. Did you get it new? How old?
Questions again: on the first phot. is it screen at the of the glasses? Is it original?
: on the third one, we see holes around the fire pot, are they for over the fire air feed?
: on the same one, do the grates move from back to front , I mean when one go front the next one go back? They look like the ones in my VigII.

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Post Fri. Jun. 24, 2011 6:50 pm

Thanks Rich for the nice photos. You have a very nice and probably rare stove. First time I see a stove like your's. Did you get it new? How old?
Questions again: on the first phot. is it screen at the of the glasses? Is it original?
: on the third one, we see holes around the fire pot, are they for over the fire air feed?
: on the same one, do the grates move from back to front , I mean when one go front the next one go back? They look like the ones in my VigII.

Nortcan,

Stove built in 1982, I bought it 2 yrs ago from a nice elderly lady who only used it a couple of times. The glass and the screen in front is original. The holes around the firepot are for the secondary air over the fire, the grates move front to back on a cam shaft arrangement.

Rich

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Post Sat. Jun. 25, 2011 7:51 pm

Now the heat shields are almost done. Should be enough, from the back: Reflective foil, Corrugated iron sheet with 1/2" air space at the back, Metal studs giving 1.5" air space, and finally 1/4" fibrocement panel with 3" air vent at the base and 2.5" at the top.
The end is near
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