Coal Cook Stove

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 8:37 am

anyone still use cook syove with coal . how well do they heat ? how efficient are they extc. ? I was thinking of killing 2 birds with one stone . their intension .


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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 8:40 am

I am very interested to the answers of your questions also.

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 8:44 am

there is some on craigslist for under 500 .

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 9:37 am

mason coal burner wrote:anyone still use cook syove with coal . how well do they heat ? how efficient are they extc. ? I was thinking of killing 2 birds with one stone . their intension .


This question is too general. It's like asking, "How well do coal stoves heat, how efficient, etc.?" The answer is as varied for cook stoves as the rest of coal stoves.

There are some that are very efficient and heat very well. There are some that don't do as good a job. Some heat well and are efficient but the size of the fire box is relatively small so if you are heating 24/7 they require a lot more attention than cook stoves with larger fireboxes.

Just like in any other coal stove, some of the things to look for are: the condition of the grates, condition of the firebox, size of fire box, how the combustion gases are routed, general condition of the stove, quality of the air control, tightness of the joints, etc.

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 9:46 am

there is a glenwood f series on boston craigslist . looks small as far as cook stoves go . I don't want to big and over powering . so are manufacturer , size , and condition most important

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 10:36 am

mason coal burner wrote:there is a glenwood f series on boston craigslist . looks small as far as cook stoves go . I don't want to big and over powering . so are manufacturer , size , and condition most important


The devils in the details... You may wish to talk with Emery from the Antique stove hospital:

http://stovehospital.com/

Have you looked at the stove? The pictures show the outside to be pretty decent. The ad says you can put 12" logs in it, that's not very big if you think about it. I can't tell from the pictures if it has a circulation path around to oven to heat the oven and don't know these models well enough to know. I'd want to look at the grates, the fire box and the air controls.

How well do you know cast iron to be able to discern well machined surfaces from cast surfaces, hair line cracks and such?

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 1:36 pm

i just started looking today . not set on any stove . just happened to see this one and know glenwood makes some of the best stoves . don't really know how to see cracks except the ones you can see with the naked eye . 12'' log is very small .

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 8:59 pm

mason coal burner wrote:i just started looking today . not set on any stove . just happened to see this one and know glenwood makes some of the best stoves . don't really know how to see cracks except the ones you can see with the naked eye . 12'' log is very small .


Call Emery at the antique stove hospital about that model. Sure Glenwood made some very good stoves, but was that model one of them? I don't know. The stove looks pretty decent in the photos. The price is pretty good also. If I was in the market for a cook stove, I'd certainly go look at it...

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 9:12 pm

My experiance with a Monarch Malleable cook stove is this.

Fire box is small, built to be run like a sports car, heat up quick, but need lots of attention, this was fine when you are cooking but not great while heating. My stove would hold a fire for a long time but, I needed to get up at night, once in cold weather and twice in real cold weather, to reload with fuel.

My stove is insulated on the end to keep the heat in the oven, I could make the top glow red at night, but it tended to radiate heat up and not around the stove into the room, cieling was very warm, floor was cold.

I had a water side in the fire box with a side arm 30 gallon tank, this tended to make steam if I didn't have a fan on the unisulated tank, lots of hot water for showers and laundry.

I added a boiler in garage with baseboard hydronic, haven't lit the stove since.
If it was as easy as burning oil, everybody would be burning coal.
Forum reality, If you ask wheres a good steak house? You will be informed that what you really want is pork chops.
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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 10:02 pm

sounds like the stove had alot of air leakage . bad seals ?

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 10:22 pm

It is tight stove, just to small a fire box, had to leave air controls open to keep house warm, that burned more coal than fire box would hold, my stove only has a 20x7x8" deep fire box most heat stoves have more room.

If I was to hand fire agian I would get a pot belly stove, lots of side radiation area, and still heat a pot of water.
If it was as easy as burning oil, everybody would be burning coal.
Forum reality, If you ask wheres a good steak house? You will be informed that what you really want is pork chops.
Enjoy it for what it is worth.

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 10:28 pm

how many pounds would it hold ?

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 10:59 pm

what where the dimensions of the outside of the stove ?

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 11:07 pm

I guess the question you have to decide on is if you want the stove mainly to heat or mainly to cook on.

I used to have a house with a really large kitchen cook stove. I can't remember what the brand was. It had a really decent sized firebox. You could throw 18 to 20 inch long logs in it and pile them up. I could run that cook stove all night on wood although it was tough in really cold weather to keep a wood fire well enough through the night to still have a nice warm house in the morning. That stove had two ovens and there was a lever on the top of it towards the back that switched the flue gases to run around the ovens.

That stove heated well and cooked well. I actually never used coal in it, but it was set up for coal. That was back before I knew how nice coal was to burn. I also got all my wood free. Free was probably the number one reason why I never tried coal at that time. I owned my Glenwood base burner at that time also. It was the main source of heat for the house. The cook stove was secondary. I just hated having to start a fire in the morning to make my coffee and cook breakfast so I usually tried to keep the fire going all night in the cook stove also.

If you mainly want to heat, then there are better options, if you want to cook and have some nice heat then that's a great way to go.

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Post Sun. Oct. 31, 2010 11:38 pm

Body of stove is 30" wide and 20" deep top is 30 1/2" from top to floor.

Also of note my coal is only 7500 BTU per pound

I guess I never relized how small that stove is.

I filled it full every night when I went to bed, I'd wake up cold, rekindle fire, set whistling tea pot on top when the teapot woke me up I would fill the stove with coal, clamp down the air some, to bed and repeat, get up at 5:30 rekindle, go to work for ten hours, return to cabin low 40s, somtimes high 30s, stoke it up make it glow till bed time. Burned about 12 tons that winter, never was comfortable, I was taking a summer cabin through the winter, sheets would freeze to the floor from the frost from my breath, cabin was up on blocks because we never set it on a foundation or the ground, I bought a twelve pack of Henery Whineharts for Christmas, froze and broke on the floor first night. Should have just rented a place that winter but I'm single and cheap.

I had just come here because my dad rolled his truck, before I could leave I was driving mixer truck, I was headed home at the end of October that year, but ten days before leaving I landed a State job, just to late in the year to work on the major housing problems I had, single didgets are the norm in November here.

If I hadn't done it, I'd have nothing to talk about :), Hopfully I'm smarter now :roll:
If it was as easy as burning oil, everybody would be burning coal.
Forum reality, If you ask wheres a good steak house? You will be informed that what you really want is pork chops.
Enjoy it for what it is worth.


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