Coalbrookdale Darby Adding Coal

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endless_mountains
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Post Thu. Oct. 21, 2010 4:26 pm

Hello. Just acquired a Coalbrookdale "The Darby" stove and am looking at options to install in my home. Wondering if it's possible to use a power vent for this stove rather than running it through my existing chimney (I'd need 35 feet of chimney liner if I run through the chimney). Has anyone used a power vent on this model? Thanks very much for reading.


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Post Thu. Oct. 21, 2010 6:08 pm

You can not use a power vent because of the safety issue in the event of a power failure; the stove will keep burning and emit carbon monoxide.

Why do you need a chimney liner?

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Other Heating: Vermont Castings Defiant 1975 FlexBurn, Fisher Grandpa Bear, Vermont Castings DutchWest 224, Vermont Castings Defiant 1945
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Post Thu. Oct. 21, 2010 10:37 pm

I have three of the Darbys and one Severn. I have not run the Darby on a power vent but I do run a Fraanco Belge in the shop with one. I have a CO alarm that I test when I go in the shop if the stove is running and I am not sleeping/living there so I really don't care if the place fills with CO when I am not there. The stove runs fine and I have not had any issues at all.

Glenn

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Post Mon. Oct. 25, 2010 8:26 am

I have not run the Darby on a power vent but I do run a Fraanco Belge in the shop with one. I have a CO alarm that I test when I go in the shop if the stove is running and I am not sleeping/living there so I really don't care if the place fills with CO when I am not there.
This is very bad advice, I'm surprised no one else has commented on it. If the building is full of carbon monoxide from a failed power vent and you walk in there you might very well be unconscious before you figure out what's going on, working CO detector or not.
A hand-fired appliance should never be connected to a power vent.
It's not worth it, take no chances.
Heating a circa 1832 farmhouse with a Harman Magnafire Mark I & a 1959 EFM 350 (heating DHW).
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Coal Size/Type: Rice, Buck, Pea, Nut, and Stove
Other Heating: Vermont Castings Defiant 1975 FlexBurn, Fisher Grandpa Bear, Vermont Castings DutchWest 224, Vermont Castings Defiant 1945
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Post Mon. Oct. 25, 2010 8:50 am

I don't recall the gentlemen asking if it was a good idea or a bad idea, only if it would work. Although it may not be a good idea (this of course is up for argument) the process of using a power vent on the stove has worked in my situation which is what I offered in my post. That said while I would diffidently not choose to hook up a stove this way in my own house it is not up to me to tell someone else they should or should not do something in there own home.

Regards,
Glenn

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Post Tue. Nov. 09, 2010 11:03 am

Hi, Someone gave me a darby last year and I haven't used my baseboard heat since. This thing is the beast. One problem as an above user I almost killed it by dropping a log on the ash door and breaking the hinge. If any has one I will love to buy it from them. And where is the best place to get replacement glass and which is the right glass.
Any help would be appreciated. I thought I was alone out here with my darby

Thanks Jp

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Coal Size/Type: Rice, Buck, Pea, Nut, and Stove
Other Heating: Vermont Castings Defiant 1975 FlexBurn, Fisher Grandpa Bear, Vermont Castings DutchWest 224, Vermont Castings Defiant 1945
Location: Peach Bottom, PA

Post Tue. Nov. 09, 2010 1:24 pm

I had four of them (three Darby's and one Severn). Neighbor now as the Severn and I still have two of the Darby's and quite a few parts. Send me a PM of what you need and I probably do have it.

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Glenn

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Post Tue. Jan. 04, 2011 9:30 pm

superpj wrote:Hi, Someone gave me a darby last year and I haven't used my baseboard heat since. This thing is the beast. One problem as an above user I almost killed it by dropping a log on the ash door and breaking the hinge. If any has one I will love to buy it from them. And where is the best place to get replacement glass and which is the right glass.
Any help would be appreciated. I thought I was alone out here with my darby

Thanks Jp
Hi.I just received spare parts for my Darby( I have been heating my ranch house for 20 years since I purchased it in 1990.The best stove made a real work horse .But after years of searching and asking around .I made contact with AGA corp.The new owner of the coalbrookedale line of stoves in Great Britian.They told me that the Darby has been stoped from production about 5 years ago,but parts availability should not be an issue.I received 1 set of the 19 BTM coal bars as mine are worn down my 3rd set,and 1 operating tool handle.My credit card was used over the phone and it worked out with a very supportive staff.But the conversion from the sterling to US dollars and the express mail ( parcel force ) over there was the add in to the price .But I received the PARTS the real deal from the REAL company.!


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Coal Size/Type: Rice, Buck, Pea, Nut, and Stove
Other Heating: Vermont Castings Defiant 1975 FlexBurn, Fisher Grandpa Bear, Vermont Castings DutchWest 224, Vermont Castings Defiant 1945
Location: Peach Bottom, PA

Post Tue. Jan. 04, 2011 9:55 pm

I have piles of the coal shaker bars if anyone needs them. They are the "real" deal as they are all cast iron. :) hehe

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Glenn

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Post Fri. Jan. 07, 2011 11:29 am

Looking for parts for Coalbrookdale Darby, specifically a "Baffle Frame". Anybody have one or know of reliable source here in states or UK?

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Bill D.

Heating with Darby for 20 years, Penna Anthracite Nut coal. Works fabulous. To someone, note above, running with only a baro damper, you need a draft control damper after the baro otherwise you will put much to much heated air up the flue and pull more draft than you need on the stove. Control is much better as is efficiency.

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Post Fri. Jan. 07, 2011 11:38 am

To Lanternhillplants

For glass try "www.FireGlassOnline.com", I just bought glass from them, it is the new ceramic glass which should be much more durable, I have not installed yet. It is a little thicker but looks like it should work perfectly, price was very competitive and delivery quick.

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Post Fri. Jan. 07, 2011 2:09 pm

wdost wrote:To someone, note above, running with only a baro damper, you need a draft control damper after the baro otherwise you will put much to much heated air up the flue and pull more draft than you need on the stove. Control is much better as is efficiency.
Draft control damper goes before the baro, not after.

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Post Fri. Jan. 07, 2011 9:26 pm

To avoid confusion...
Proper order...
Stove, MPD, Baro, Chimney...
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Sat. Jan. 08, 2011 10:31 pm

Bill Try the woodsman in New Hampshere they list as having them in stock for $100.00 plus shipping also you can get parts directly fron the AGA,coalbrookedale factory in Great Britian infact I just received a new tool handle today Express mail from them so yes parts are available,and for the ceramic glass I found my new glass for the two doors at the local auto glass ,speciality glass dealer it is a special Ceramic glass capable of handleing the high heat the ran about$50.00 per pane.Good luck.Robin quote="wdost"]Looking for parts for Coalbrookdale Darby, specifically a "Baffle Frame". Anybody have one or know of reliable source here in states or UK?

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Bill D.

Heating with Darby for 20 years, Penna Anthracite Nut coal. Works fabulous. To someone, note above, running with only a baro damper, you need a draft control damper after the baro otherwise you will put much to much heated air up the flue and pull more draft than you need on the stove. Control is much better as is efficiency.[/quote]

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 Highboy, and EFM 520 round door
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Coalbrookdale Darby, Harman Mark III, Stratford SC100, DutchWest 288 (With Coal Insert), Coalbrookdale Severn, Hitzer 50/93, Hitzer 354 Double Door, FrancoBelge La Normandie, DS Machine Anthramax
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Buck, Pea, Nut, and Stove
Other Heating: Vermont Castings Defiant 1975 FlexBurn, Fisher Grandpa Bear, Vermont Castings DutchWest 224, Vermont Castings Defiant 1945
Location: Peach Bottom, PA

Post Sat. Jan. 08, 2011 10:48 pm

I have all of the parts you are looking for.

Glenn


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