ARCO Series 28-1B Coal Water Boiler

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Post by sopcopotoptop » Tue. Mar. 12, 2024 9:31 pm

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Can anyone shed some light on the pictured boiler? The person I’m getting this from said the house was built in the 1950’s but this boiler surly looks like no newer than the mid-1920’s if not earlier. Does anyone have any American Radiator Company literature on this size 4-28-W boiler? When it may have been built? I can’t imagine boilers of this style, gravity circulating, coal fired still available in the 1950’s. I want it for our 1908, 2,850 square foot home and I believe the style and size would fit that era. Thanks for any help in advance.

 
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Post by carlherrnstein » Wed. Mar. 13, 2024 11:23 pm

My grandparents house was remodeled in 1938 it had a ARCO #7 1 pipe steam boiler in the basement, it was about 5' tall 4' wide 6' long and had a sheet metal casing that was stuffed with asbestos cardboard. I highly suspect that, that boiler is missing it's jacket and insulation an that's what it looks crude an older than the 50s.

Sometimes early technology sticks around for a long time.

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Thu. Mar. 14, 2024 7:41 am

Thank you for the reply. With some further research I have found that as late as 1948, American Radiator Co. (American Standard by then) was still producing the round ARCO boilers and I suspect that is what I have coming. Same basic design as those made in 1904. This boiler may indeed only be about 75 years old. That would explain the exceptionally good finish on it yet.

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Sat. Mar. 16, 2024 10:16 pm

Update: Removed this huge round boiler today. As I examined the house I’ve found that it was not built in the fifties but rather in the late teens or early to mid twenties. So, the boiler is contemporary to the build and I’m really good condition as there is very little rust and it appears to have most of its original finish yet. The basement must stay very dry. She’s a beast and I’m sure she weighs close to 1,000 pounds.


 
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Post by carlherrnstein » Sun. Mar. 17, 2024 11:30 pm

Cool, be sure to wash it out really well, it's probably got a good amount of scale in it. Do you plan on building a gravity system in your house or are you going with a pumped system?

That would be great with a stoker mechanism under it, you would have a automated heating system complete with thermostat for the Mrs to play with. 🤣

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Mon. Mar. 18, 2024 6:38 pm

If anyone is interested this boiler, complete, weighs 1,480 pounds.

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Wed. Mar. 20, 2024 3:01 pm

Another question: What are the two holes in the fire pot for in this water boiler? They look as though they should have plugs in them although the boiler I just picked up were not plugged. If I want to burn coal in this what should I do with these? Thank you!

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Wed. Mar. 20, 2024 4:48 pm

Sorry, here are pictures:

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Post by pintoplumber » Thu. Mar. 21, 2024 1:54 pm

When I was a kid, we had a coal fired hot air octopus type heater. We had 2 holes in the front for a pipe going in 2 90’s and a pipe going out. Connected to a hot water storage tank. My guess.

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Thu. Mar. 21, 2024 1:57 pm

pintoplummer that is what had been suggested elsewhere. For a hot water coil for domestic use. Thanks much!

 
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Post by sopcopotoptop » Thu. Mar. 21, 2024 7:17 pm

Confirmed from a 1925 Ideal Fitters book. TACO water heater on 9” centers. Thanks for the responses.

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