NEW YORKER WC 130 UP AND RUNNING!! 2 16 18

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BodyshopPat
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Post by BodyshopPat » Sat. Feb. 17, 2018 8:56 pm

Well, after taking a few days off from work and getting the WC 130 installed and fired up its a total new experience for me!!!! . I have it hooked up to the 3500 sq ft of house that has radiant and also plumbed to a coil in an electric blower unit putting some warm air into the house . As a dump zone I installed a medium size Dayton ceiling hung heater in the garage. My garage has never been so warm. I don't have the coil with the fan for the house hooked up to electric yet so I am using the dump zone heater for now.The little WC 130 only has one 1 1/2 supply and I knew or at least suspected it might be sized a little small for me but it was an experiment too. I fired it with bit coal and wood yesterday and last night at bedtime, I put in a large piece of wood that was not well seasoned. I turned off the draft inducer fan and went to bed, with the old warm air funace I would have woke to a small bed of coals and some red glow,,, but this morning I went to the garage, after being so happy last night with its first fire,,, and found a water puddle at pipe at rear, water running out the ash pit door, and a smelly mess of creosote in the whole garage,, at first I thought I had a bad leak but after cleaning up the mess and getting the fire going again, it all dried up and all is clean and good . It was condensation from the firebox cooling down, so I am going to have to learn to burn it hot and let the draft fan work as it should,,, I am asking a lot of the small boiler and I am seeing temps in the 135 range, but without making it go nuclear with all the draw on the boiler, I feel that what I thought its true,,, its a little small for the job. I went today and bought 6 bags of anthracite from tractor supply to try. and for a few days,,, and see how it goes,, I believe if I am not going to be able to burn much wood in this stove, I can save it for the body shop warm air furnace and maybe buy a stoker this summer and install it, and have a load of coal delivered from pa. I am very happy with the fact that my floor is getting good 120 degree water that before the only way I could get it was with the lp tankless heater. will snap a few pictures and post later tomorrow afternoon. I am running my circulators constant so it keeps everything toasty warm in the floors. :out:

 
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Post by lsayre » Sun. Feb. 18, 2018 5:25 am

I'm a bit concerned about the water issue, but congratulations! You really want to burn anthracite in it 24/7, and not wood.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Feb. 18, 2018 7:33 am

Plan on burning coal, not wood...unless you want a big mess with creosote. If you do want to burn wood on occasion, it needs to be dry and the boiler needs to be fired hard. Also - You do not want to run that boiler at 135 degrees all the time. It should be hooked up with a bypass so you can throttle the load and keep the boiler above 150 degrees.

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Post by McGiever » Sun. Feb. 18, 2018 7:23 pm

Learning Curve...Everybody gets one on Every new setup.

Hang in there Pat, we're here to get through it.

 
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Post by BodyshopPat » Fri. Mar. 02, 2018 8:54 pm

:clap: Well, its been about 2 weeks with the New Yorker 130 and I have all the water to air coils in place and working, also the radiant is hooked up and we have had a few nights in the 20's. I have to fire it pretty hard so I feel I really need a larger unit, but the 5000 sq ft is warm, even the garage is warm and although the radiant in garage is not in the game, its keeping the garage a pleasant 60 -65 all the time. I am posting pictures of the install, I have a small electric furnace with plenum overtop the boiler that has a water to air coil in it.. I basically bought it for the fan and the 10k back up heat was not expensive so I bought it too,, about 60 bucks!. I am looking hard at an AHS multi fuel unit but the little new Yorker has sold me on the idea that I needed a boiler,,, its the most wonderful piece of equipment I have ever owned!!!! just a dab small for my application,,,, I know in the install I am running the pumps on small cords,, but they are hd ones,, and I left off a lot of isolation valves , but this thing is small and easy to drain if I needed to, I had to once to fix a small leak we had in a pipe,,, so its not a big deal but if I put in the new ahs unit, I will have most of my system in place and it will be much easier to install than this was since I had to add all the water to air stuff.. here are the pictures,,, I get lots of warm air for the laundry room from that little box fan so don't laugh!!!!... I am open to all advice on the install so next time I can tweak it,, but its 25 outside tonight, 15 mph wind and 75 in the house!!!!

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Post by McGiever » Fri. Mar. 02, 2018 11:25 pm

Doing good there on the learning curve. ;)

A used priced right AHS or AA can be found for those whom are patient. :)

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Post by Rob R. » Sat. Mar. 03, 2018 6:53 am

Pat, I would cover that baro when you are burning wood.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sat. Mar. 03, 2018 8:24 am

Your running no pressure? Or is your gauge broke?

Never mind, saw the other pic.

 
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Post by Smitty275 » Sun. Apr. 22, 2018 3:58 am

What kind of burn times are you getting with the WC 130?

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