Need help identifying boiler...pics
- CoalisCoolxWarm
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I didn't take the pics, but here's what I have to work with. Looking to help a friend with her setup, but want to identify and gather info first.
She reports it as a handfed Bituminous "Burnham" boiler. I'm not sure about Burnham.
Has trouble keeping warm and overnight fires, etc. I'm planning to see it in person, but want to know details about it, draft requirements, etc first. Will it burn anthracite? Anyone else using one or familiar?
If the fire is nearly out each am, the water in the system can't be very warm or the house comfortable.
I think it is a single pump, single zone, though not sure if monoflow tees or what? Radiators, not baseboard.
Let's see if we can't get them warm on a diet of black rocks
She reports it as a handfed Bituminous "Burnham" boiler. I'm not sure about Burnham.
Has trouble keeping warm and overnight fires, etc. I'm planning to see it in person, but want to know details about it, draft requirements, etc first. Will it burn anthracite? Anyone else using one or familiar?
If the fire is nearly out each am, the water in the system can't be very warm or the house comfortable.
I think it is a single pump, single zone, though not sure if monoflow tees or what? Radiators, not baseboard.
Let's see if we can't get them warm on a diet of black rocks
- coaledsweat
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I have a friend with a new, in the crate Burhman like that. It is cast and sectional if that helps. It's for sale if anyone is looking.
- CoalisCoolxWarm
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So it is a Burnham? With the H inside a clover kind of thing, I was thinking maybe Crane because of another pic I found of a different model.coaledsweat wrote: ↑Thu. Nov. 16, 2017 1:11 pmI have a friend with a new, in the crate Burhman like that. It is cast and sectional if that helps. It's for sale if anyone is looking.
Can you tell me the BTU's? Will it burn anthracite? Have you fired it...any tips- lots of ash, make sure you ash it frequently, how deep of a coal bed it likes, etc?
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Not sure if it is a Burnham. The H inside the clover is an ASME approval for a pressure vessel. The boiler can run up to 15# of steam with it. I would guess about 80-100,000 BTUs.
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Thanks for the info on the symbol. I am no expert on identifying models
When I asked for more info from the plate, she said it is a Slant fin. Does that sound right?
Look at these plumbing pic on top:
It looks almost like two separate sections are teed together, then feeding the output loop. Is yours a sectional and are the sections plumbed out the top separately? I'm used to one section and output.
I am not sure of the pipe diameter, either. Looks small to me, but with everything the same diameter and no reference, it could be 1.25" or 1"...???
I'd like to get her into a stoker at some point, but hard times. I found a "K4" (I think it is KAA-4) but that is too small. Looking for a KA-6 if the price is right or we can restore or work some trades for it.
Rob- does your plate say Slant fin?
When I asked for more info from the plate, she said it is a Slant fin. Does that sound right?
Look at these plumbing pic on top:
It looks almost like two separate sections are teed together, then feeding the output loop. Is yours a sectional and are the sections plumbed out the top separately? I'm used to one section and output.
I am not sure of the pipe diameter, either. Looks small to me, but with everything the same diameter and no reference, it could be 1.25" or 1"...???
I'd like to get her into a stoker at some point, but hard times. I found a "K4" (I think it is KAA-4) but that is too small. Looking for a KA-6 if the price is right or we can restore or work some trades for it.
Rob- does your plate say Slant fin?
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Update: The valve on top is stamped 1-1/4. Unless there is a reducer there, at least that part is good.
6-9 tons Bit per season in Western PA.
I think I am going to evaluate it for a conversion to primary and secondary loops with a pump. Maybe a manifold to zone things off with zone valves and build a new primary loop.
I'm thinking 4 zones. 1st floor, 2nd floor, finished attic, and basement/dump zone.
Depends on how the radiators are plumbed now.
The steps I envision now are 1) Build primary loop and create the zones. 2) Figure out how to get better firing results (primary zone keeping some heat in boiler has to be helpful). 3) Later date swap in an anthracite stoker boiler.
6-9 tons Bit per season in Western PA.
I think I am going to evaluate it for a conversion to primary and secondary loops with a pump. Maybe a manifold to zone things off with zone valves and build a new primary loop.
I'm thinking 4 zones. 1st floor, 2nd floor, finished attic, and basement/dump zone.
Depends on how the radiators are plumbed now.
The steps I envision now are 1) Build primary loop and create the zones. 2) Figure out how to get better firing results (primary zone keeping some heat in boiler has to be helpful). 3) Later date swap in an anthracite stoker boiler.
- CoalisCoolxWarm
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I cannot find a picture or any info on this model AT ALL.
Any help getting info on it would be greatly appreciated!
Any help getting info on it would be greatly appreciated!
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Is that a "beam and weight" safety valve on top?
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It is a Slant Fin 21 series. I have a identical boiler In my shop for sale 85,000 BTUs Hand fired 3 section boiler Was making heat up last week 12/26/18. work great just to small for my needs,