Need Ideas for Ceramic Fire Arch for Burning Bit in GJ 62
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor with a Motor Stokor
- Coal Size/Type: Bituminous Stoker / 1-1/2" X 1/4"
- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
I would like to get ideas on building a ceramic arch over top of the burn pot in a GJ 62. I use a Motor Stoker burning Bit coal. How much benefit would offer. Thanks for any ideas anyone can offer.
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- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
Welcome
Sorry, I can not offer any help to your questions...hopefully someone else will.
We all here love seeing others setups. May we see some pics of yours?
What part of West Virginia are you in?
BTW: I see you list a geo/hp, I have 2 here also, myself.
Sorry, I can not offer any help to your questions...hopefully someone else will.
We all here love seeing others setups. May we see some pics of yours?
What part of West Virginia are you in?
BTW: I see you list a geo/hp, I have 2 here also, myself.
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- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
I am in the process of rebuilding the base, adding an extension to set the boiler on and putting firebrick in the extension and around the fire pot. I can take some pictures and post tomorrow. I like the Geo especially in the summer, but in my opinion you cannot beat the warmth of a hot radiator to back up to when coming out of the cold in the winter.
Use high temp, high density ceramic fiberboard 1.5 to 2" thick. Cut two pieces about 10" wide and rest them against each other - I recommend fingering them together. It will look like the top of a triangle or a tee-pee. you can even notch the bottoms where the rest against the base to let any flyash accumulation drop. Also, extend the short baffel in the back by cutting a piece of ceramic fiberboard 1" thick and running it all the way down in front of it, but just overlapping the baffel by 1" or so. I extended the base on one I did about 12" or so and put ceramic fiberboard 2" thick all the way around to reflect the heat. It works very well and allows much less air to get a good burn.
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- Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
@ *ldmil*,
Yep, My geo/hp runs "balls to the walls" in the summer time too, mine is an "open system" aka; "pump and dump", not the anti-freeze circulated closed loop type.
Here, I'm going to help you after all:
http://www.hitempincusa.com/firebricks.asp
http://www.hitempincusa.com/ceramic_fiber.asp
http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/calcium- ... nsulation/
Hope this Helps
Yep, My geo/hp runs "balls to the walls" in the summer time too, mine is an "open system" aka; "pump and dump", not the anti-freeze circulated closed loop type.
Here, I'm going to help you after all:
http://www.hitempincusa.com/firebricks.asp
http://www.hitempincusa.com/ceramic_fiber.asp
http://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/calcium- ... nsulation/
Hope this Helps
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- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
Yes, to give a better burn. It should reflect the heat back to the coals to help get a complete burn I am thinking. I am a novice so my thoughts are more or less trials to hopefully accomplish a much better burn. The coal I have used is high quality but, it is high coking coal also which makes it harder to get a complete burn due to the coking factor.
Berlin, that is a great idea. Should I install so the side slopes are to the boiler side or front to back. In my extension I have installed a door which has 2-1/2" fire brick for a liner with holes drilled similar to yours (This is where I got the idea from and many thanks ). I am thinking I will be able to help keep the fly ash cleaned from the arch thru the GJ door. I will have to locate ceramic fiber board. No one around here stocks much of anything for stoves it seems.
The Geo Thermal is a backup for when I am not around to keep the boiler going. I have 5 loops 250' each buried approx. 5 to 6 feet in the ground and use R-22 refrigerant in it.
Berlin, that is a great idea. Should I install so the side slopes are to the boiler side or front to back. In my extension I have installed a door which has 2-1/2" fire brick for a liner with holes drilled similar to yours (This is where I got the idea from and many thanks ). I am thinking I will be able to help keep the fly ash cleaned from the arch thru the GJ door. I will have to locate ceramic fiber board. No one around here stocks much of anything for stoves it seems.
The Geo Thermal is a backup for when I am not around to keep the boiler going. I have 5 loops 250' each buried approx. 5 to 6 feet in the ground and use R-22 refrigerant in it.
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- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
McGiver, I am about 23 miles South of Beckley, WV.
I will give HiTemp a call. Maybe other sources will become available also.
Thanks, Larry
I will give HiTemp a call. Maybe other sources will become available also.
Thanks, Larry
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- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
Some pictures as promised. As can be seen there is a lot to be finished at this point.
I am looking for an ash auger along with the sectional top ring at the top
of the burn pot for the Motor Stoker .
I am looking for an ash auger along with the sectional top ring at the top
of the burn pot for the Motor Stoker .
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: BUCKET A DAY water heater
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 414A
- Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
Interesting.
Doesn't resemble the Motor Stoker that's on You Tube so much.
Doesn't resemble the Motor Stoker that's on You Tube so much.
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- Other Heating: Geothermal Heat Pump
It is somewhat different. The ash augers are not in the pictures. I have a bin which I attach directly to the Stoker. I had to extend the auger and I use a separate speed reducer to drive it. I have had to slow the feed rate down to help the burn out.