Kettle Humidifyers

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majortom6x
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Post Sat. Dec. 20, 2008 2:54 pm

Have a LL Hearth Model. Will the Kettle Humidifyers they have for woodstoves work with the Hearth Model?
My thought is not hot enough surface on top of Hearth to steam any water. Do not have a thermometer to test temperature.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks

Now using 3 gal room humidifyer (hot air) and what a difference but 300 watts of electricy.

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Post Sat. Dec. 20, 2008 3:58 pm

I tried that years ago but don't like the idea of a pot of water sitting on top of my stove. If it leaks or breaks it wouldn't be good + they can't possibly put out enough water to be that usefull. I run this whole house humidifier http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_03214416000P & have to refill many gallons of water per day to keep my house at around 38-40% humidity.

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Post Sat. Dec. 20, 2008 4:14 pm

I don't think the kittle will work. Temps on the outer top are not near hot enough.
Jer


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Post Sun. Dec. 21, 2008 7:44 am

Thanks Jer & dav505 . I agree . A tea pot type humidifyer is strictly for wood stoves or manual coal stoves that have a single layer top plate that radiates tremendous heat.
But the double layer top plated stokers get quite hot at top when running above 30% capacity and I think there may be a way of getting some descent water evaporation rate from these stoves. I put 32 oz of hot water in a 14 x 9 cake/cookie type pan and placed it on a trivet at top front of Hearth model. The cookie pan has a large surface area and that may allow a descent rate of evaporation to occur at the top temperature of the Hearth stove. If the 32 oz of water evaporates off in 2 hours that is a rate of 3 gals per day and is significant.
Will post results here.

At any rate it is very important health wise to keep your house at a minimum of 30% humidity & max of 55 %. 45% is ideal! A good investment for stove owners and all is a digital hygrometer (humidity meter) that you can get for about $20.

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Post Sun. Dec. 21, 2008 10:45 am

The cookie type pan with big surface area evaporated only 8 to 9 ozs of water in 3 hours. That's only about a half gal per day and not enough to significantly raise humidity in room the stove is in. This was with Hearth running at a thermostat setting of 39.
Bottom line is don't waste your time/money for humidity kettles or pans on top of stoker stove with double top plates.

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Post Sun. Dec. 21, 2008 11:59 pm

How about a slow drip?I've noticed that one side of my Pioneer is hotter than the other,hands placed in front where the warm air blows out can detect a temp difference,just dripped some water on the stove top,when facing the front of the stove the right side and center the water pools heats and slowly steams,the left side immediately sputters and boils off,a slow drip drip drip could be regulated and add up to a lot during the day.I like low humidity,my doors always work better in the winter.Old settled warped house.RichB


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Post Fri. Dec. 26, 2008 6:21 pm

Some dude called himself Sandy Claws swung by my house and dropped off a package with an IR point the laser dot and squeeze the trigger thermometer yesterday.Both outside sides of the stove are close to 500f,the inside top about 400f,the front just above the glass door 490f,the outside top runs 275 to 155 from left to right.Seems like the left top should boil a kettle of water and steam nicely once it gets going.Is this an inherent design characteristic with the left to right top temp differential,or just an individual idiosyncracy of my stove?Love the stove,will let ya know how the kettle works out.Used 160 ,28 lb buckets between sept 17 and today,when the wind blows 20 and gusts to 45 with temps in low 20's the oil burner kicks in every now and then,120 year old plank construction with no insulation and leaky windows,guesstimate 20 gallons oil so far this season,would have emptied the tank and be on the 2nd one by this time last year.LL Pioneer,1800 s.f. RichB

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Post Mon. Dec. 29, 2008 11:41 pm

Filled a kettle with hot water,left it on the stove for 3 hours,plenty hot but no boil,not enough steam to speak of,decided the side to side temp differential is cooler side is the convection blowers side so it gets a little more airflow. RichB

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