Concrete Floor Sealant for Bin?

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Post by Ashcat » Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 9:15 am

I'm starting to get material together to build a coal bin in our basement, which has a concrete floor. I think I should apply concrete paint or sealant of some type to the concrete that will form the floor of the bin. Any suggestions or ideas?

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Post by vtec350 » Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 9:28 am

Use a concrete stain, it will penetrate into the concrete and seal the floor better than paint and will not peel. Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore are the 2 I've always used and have had great results with either.

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Post by Freddy » Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Why seal it?

 
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Post by Qball » Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 12:53 pm

My concrete bin is outside and I did not seal it with anything. Moisture won't hurt your coal or concrete and the coal does not make that much of a mess.

 
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Post by Ashcat » Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 2:11 pm

Thanks for your replies. The sealing will take me all of about 10 minutes to complete (approx 10 ft X 7 feet area), so it's not a big deal to do. Second, I'm going to be dragging a shovel across it regularly to scoop up coal, and figured sealant/paint might keep down some concrete dust. Third, I would imagine that it would be easier to clean the concrete if anyone ever wishes to do so in the future, if the concrete is sealed/painted first.

 
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Post by Dann757 » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 6:04 pm

If you wanted to go nuts you could use two part epoxy. Expensive though. Home Depot has it in quite a few colors.

 
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Post by Horace » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 6:24 pm

UGL Drylock is great stuff, too.


 
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Post by syncmaster » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 7:20 pm

if you seal the floor, the wet coals water has to go someplace so it might flow out of the coal bin and you will get black water where you don't want it.
if the floor of the bin is pitched in one direction it might be nice to poke a hole at the lowest part of the bin so any water will flow towards the drain.
When I got 6 tons delivered it was raining like crazy. plus they wet the coal for loading so there was alot of black water to drain.

Post by syncmaster - 6 Ton Rice Coal Delivery Thru Garage Door to Bin

 
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Post by Ashcat » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 9:12 pm

I ended up using Dry-Lock on the floor and block wall in the bin. Yes, water seepage may be a problem--I'll be manning the bucket and mop, and my son the camera, when my coal is delivered 11/28.

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Post by Dann757 » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 10:19 pm

Good luck! Are you going to use a window as a coal chute? Will you enclose completely? Are you going to seal the osb you're using? That stuff won't tolerate mosture indefinitely. Keep the pics coming!

 
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Post by sterling40man » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 10:35 pm

Ashcat, I noticed the "L" brackets that you installed on the bottom plates to anchor your 2x4's. Is this the reason why you are installing the 2x4's on the face side and not on end? On end would be much stronger. If you put the 2x4's on end you could use these to anchor them http://tamlyn.com/JoistHangers.html. They work great and are only about 50 cents a piece. Just my 2 cents worth. :D

 
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Post by Ashcat » Tue. Nov. 25, 2008 10:53 pm

What you see pictured wasn't my finished bin. As suggested by several others, I've reinforced by adding studs, and reinforcing the brackets. Here are the relevant pictures, and I posted more on the Coal Bin thread (COAL BIN Pics). I am no expert (as you can tell) in construction, but I expect it will hold. If it doesn't, I'll post the pics here :o , so people can see how NOT to build a coal bin.

I don't expect the sides to stay wet for any length of time, and so hadn't considered sealing the bin walls. Yes, the window will be for the coal chute entry.

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Post by Dann757 » Wed. Nov. 26, 2008 12:37 am

Best of luck with it! You will see what is going on with it when it's full. Won't it be nice to have a mountain of coal contained in your basement! I slapped my coal bin together with one wall being the former outer wall of an old chicken coop, and the other being a hollow core door, and osb scraps for ends, a few 2x4 uprights and braces. A free-floating enclosure with blue tarp bottom on a dirt floor. It's inside the shed anyway. I had to put that together fast as I was coming home with more than I anticipated. I vote myself for the worst coal bin. I put it where I could just back right up to it and shovel it in anyway. How many tons will it hold?!

 
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Post by sterling40man » Wed. Nov. 26, 2008 8:56 am

Ashcat wrote:What you see pictured wasn't my finished bin. As suggested by several others, I've reinforced by adding studs, and reinforcing the brackets.
Great job! I'm positive that it will hold now. Good luck!

 
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Post by WNY » Wed. Nov. 26, 2008 9:00 am

might need a few more screws in that one joint (Just kidding). Looks good.!!

I lined mine with 6-8mil black plastic about 1/2 way up and just stapled it to the sides, so far working.


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