Are Coal Stoves in Short Supply (Fall 2008)?

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Post Mon. Oct. 20, 2008 8:33 pm

hmmmm...wonder who that was?

:P :P :P


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Post Tue. Oct. 21, 2008 10:12 am

Well if it was you av8r then bravo :)

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Post Wed. Nov. 05, 2008 11:22 am

I order my stove (Alaska Channing III) from CSM in Monson, MA in late July and I am still waiting. :mad: I was originally told it would be 3 weeks and then it turned into " next week" (this went on for 2 month or so) and now it is "I don't know when it is coming in". I understand the high demand causing delays but this is ridiculous - It has been over 3 months since I ordered it!!! I figured that since I was ordering it in the summer it wouldn't have been an issue - it never crossed my mind that I'd be waiting for 3+ months for delivery with still no eta in sight.

If I would have been told this then I would have continued to look around an find a stove that was in-stock somewhere in the NE area.

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Post Thu. Nov. 06, 2008 9:06 am

Ordered July 31st from the factory. Was told by Thanksgiving, the stove was ready Monday 11/3 and i'm picking it up Friday. See what your dealer has to say about that.

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Post Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 9:45 pm

rberq wrote:There's a guy in Maine who has been advertising (not on Craigslist) new Harman pellet stoves from $3200 to $4000. Is that what they usually go for, or is he trying to clean up in a tight market?
"Hanging is tooo good fur dat critter"

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Post Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 10:01 pm

BearKnot wrote:
rberq wrote:There's a guy in Maine who has been advertising (not on Craigslist) new Harman pellet stoves from $3200 to $4000. Is that what they usually go for, or is he trying to clean up in a tight market?
"Hanging is tooo good fur dat critter"


Those prices don't seem too far out of line for a Harman pellet stove. Four years ago you couldn't touch a Harman stove for under $2800.
But it has been a few years since I looked at pellet stove pricing. Back a couple of years ago Bixby was selling their pellet/corn stove for $4500 and they sold a bunch of them. I don't know what they sell for now but my guess is they are cheaper because bixby had financial problems and had to do some restructuring and had a lot of stoves in inventory. But maybe with the run on alternative heating they are pricey once again.

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Post Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 10:09 pm

gambler wrote:
BearKnot wrote: "Hanging is tooo good fur dat critter" :D


Those prices don't seem too far out of line for a Harman pellet stove. Four years ago you couldn't touch a Harman stove for under $2800.
But it has been a few years since I looked at pellet stove pricing. Back a couple of years ago Bixby was selling their pellet/corn stove for $4500 and they sold a bunch of them. I don't know what they sell for now but my guess is they are cheaper because bixby had financial problems and had to do some restructuring and had a lot of stoves in inventory. But maybe with the run on alternative heating they are pricey once again.
Hmmm, well then, how about Sam adds a smilie?

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Post Sat. Nov. 15, 2008 11:33 pm

Citizen0001 wrote:I order my stove (Alaska Channing III) from CSM in Monson, MA in late July and I am still waiting. :mad: I was originally told it would be 3 weeks and then it turned into " next week" (this went on for 2 month or so) and now it is "I don't know when it is coming in". I understand the high demand causing delays but this is ridiculous - It has been over 3 months since I ordered it!!! I figured that since I was ordering it in the summer it wouldn't have been an issue - it never crossed my mind that I'd be waiting for 3+ months for delivery with still no eta in sight.

If I would have been told this then I would have continued to look around an find a stove that was in-stock somewhere in the NE area.
Citizen0001,

I live in North Central MA and found a dealer in Winchester NH.(Hot Spot) He had a Channing III in stock and more on order. The in stock stove was black but my wife preferred red. The dealer started getting feedback from Alaska Stoves that the shipment was being delayed. He painted the stove red for me so I had it in a week! Maybe he got his shipment in so you maybe you can check it out. Good luck....great stove! I still need to figure out how to reduce the combustion fan noise more but I'll get there......


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Post Mon. Dec. 15, 2008 10:28 am

Thanks for the info leblancsp. I did check around to other dealers and found nothing. BTW- I am still waiting :mad: My wife was set on the stove we ordered/purchased and was content on waiting but since we lost power and heat in the ice storm she's ready to go back to the dealer and rip their eyes out. I am not sure what is going on with this dealer but we were one of their first customers when they took over the shop and have been exteremly understanding of the demand situation but growing more and more frustrated. Is there anyone else out there who has been waiting since Late July for their stove (Alaska Channing III)? I suspect that the dealer is getting stoves and giving them to others lower on the list. Everytime I call I am in a different position on the list (and not a better one at that). I want to cancel the order but then I would have to start all over somewhere else. I am kicking myself because I had an opportunity on another stove but passed it over to wait for my stove. Now I am sitting at my in-laws :doh: hoping the pipes don't freeze at my house.
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Post Mon. Dec. 15, 2008 10:49 am

Tri County Coal in Carmel NY has reading and hitzer in stock.

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Post Mon. Dec. 15, 2008 10:52 am

Unless you have some type of power back-up, you'd still be cold with the Channing. Stokers require electricity to run.

After reading about the power situation from the ice storm, I'm considering some type of hand fed stove for in the basement that I could vent through the boiler chimney on an as-needed temporary basis. Or a generator (but not in the basement :sick: ).

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Post Thu. Dec. 18, 2008 1:22 pm

Citizen0001 wrote:Thanks for the info leblancsp. I did check around to other dealers and found nothing. BTW- I am still waiting :mad: My wife was set on the stove we ordered/purchased and was content on waiting but since we lost power and heat in the ice storm she's ready to go back to the dealer and rip their eyes out. I am not sure what is going on with this dealer but we were one of their first customers when they took over the shop and have been exteremly understanding of the demand situation but growing more and more frustrated. Is there anyone else out there who has been waiting since Late July for their stove (Alaska Channing III)? I suspect that the dealer is getting stoves and giving them to others lower on the list. Everytime I call I am in a different position on the list (and not a better one at that). I want to cancel the order but then I would have to start all over somewhere else. I am kicking myself because I had an opportunity on another stove but passed it over to wait for my stove. Now I am sitting at my in-laws :doh: hoping the pipes don't freeze at my house.
Citizen,

Wow....what a pain! I just got power restored an hour ago......I have an RV with a generator so I've been running the generator and ran a plug into the house to power the combustion blower and brew coffee. Everything else was a bonus. The extended camping trip in my own house was getting old though.....I used water from a stream across the street for flushing. I learned that I could cook food on top of the Channing III if I had it cranking....nice! I also figured out how to quiet the combustion blower a bit....it's called replacing a defective combustion blower....I called Alaska and held the phone next to the stove. He said..it's not supposed to be that loud, have your stove suppler replace it. They ordered the part and replaced it......I'm not sure if you checked with "Hot Spot" but it's worth a call. They were expecting stoves......

-Steve

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Post Thu. Dec. 18, 2008 6:31 pm

Steve - Necessity is the mother of invention. It sounds like you came through the power outage OK. You had heat, coffee, and flushing, the necessities of life. In our ice storm (11 years ago now) we lost power for 12 days. We were so satisfied with all the adaptations we we made, that we were almost disappointed when the electricity came back. Almost, I say....

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Post Fri. Dec. 19, 2008 1:01 pm

Thanks again Steve. I did check with the *Hot Spot* dealer you mentioned and they are still waiting for the stoves from Alaska. It seems that Alaska is still backordered and owes many stoves to many dealers. My dealer has told me that they are "suppose to receive 20 stoves next week" but I have heard that time and time again. I am just not sure how they can continue to say such a thing given the numerous time I've heard that before. It is almost a joke now.

On the plus side we just got our power back after being out for just under 1 week to the day. :D We did invest in a generator a few days ago and just in time as the sump pumps kicked in right away and has been running quite regularly.

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Post Fri. Dec. 19, 2008 4:50 pm

I ordered my Alaska Channing III sometime late July to early August. I was given a delivery date of the first week of September. I did finally have it arrive the week before Thanksgiving (just in time for the first real cold weather). I did a lot of research after the purchase and realized that I needed backup power to run the stove during a power outage. I got an inverter and a 50 ft. heavy duty extension cord just a few weeks before the ice storm left me without power for almost a week.

Unfortunately, I have never started the stove myself, the installers fired it up when they installed it and I kept it running without interruption until the power outage. I did read a number of posts in this forum and I had the general idea of what to do, but I spent a frustrating afternoon trying to get the stove lit. I gave up and left for a while, only to come back and see the stove burning full bore. I had no problem keeping the house nice and toasty warm and the Alaska stove didn't seem to mind the inverter's less than ideal modified sine wave output (I did have a humidifier fry a bit on while struggling to start on high setting).

Anyway, while this is my first post, I must have read a few hundred posts here, and the information provided by this forum has helped me a great deal. For instance, I was worried about what to do with the ash from the stove, but several posts here gave me ideas how to use it without hauling it to the dump. Now I am worried I won't have quite enough for covering the ice on my driveway. Thanks for all the great information, without the coal stove I would have been much worse off, some people's homes got down to 35 degree's after several days without power. :o


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