Do I Need a Stainless Steel Liner for My Chimney?

Lola Coalfire
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Post Sun. Oct. 11, 2009 9:41 pm

Incidentally, and Poconoeagle guffawed at this, all communication from this end had been from my iphone. That's right. One finger, one letter at a time, in mineature. Gee, maybe THAT'S why I have this headache?
Thanks to you all. (these brownies are burnt but good.)


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Post Mon. Oct. 12, 2009 12:43 pm

G'day Yous Y'all!
Poconoeagle's consultancy visit yesterday was a blessing--no, a miracle! I'd gotten so worried about my stove's non-performance, all the no-turning-back investment I'd made toward heating with coal, and my brazen confidence. (I admit to tears at times.)
This morning was wonderful. I came down to a nice warm stove. I shook it in the new, more assertive style bestowed on me yesterday, and completed the rest of stove diaper changing. A calm but robust fire is keeping me warm while I finally unpack more boxes. Yes, I think I will make it through my first winter!
Perky,how you cookin? Identical stoves. I do live in the old part of the Pines. I don't have one of those gorgeous river rock lodges, but I have a sweet 100 year old wooden cottage. We'll have to meet. Y can show me your stove, and I'll show you mine! (like looking in a mirror)

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Post Tue. Oct. 13, 2009 7:37 pm

Lola,
How ya doin? Still warm? Getting the hang of it? Are you able to go to work, without running home. I'm still going after 3 days...trying to learn the ins and outs before it gets colder. Waiting for Indian Summer to arrive, but since we didn't have a summer, think I'll be waiting til next year.
Perky

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Post Thu. Oct. 15, 2009 3:29 pm

Hang of it? I should say so! It is burning beautifully. I'm beginning to wonder if the 5 ton I've got stashed will last me through October. :) It's snowing on October 15!
Stay warm.

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Post Fri. Oct. 16, 2009 11:03 pm

Well. If ya weigh the hod, then do a normal fill and weigh again, you should be able to figure out per day use and caculate how many days of coal u have. as the outside temp drops the useage will go up so figure over a period of time...

also weighing the ash left could help you spend countless hours caculating cost vs waste factors!! :D

save the ash for the driveway to keep the wittle kar from swippin :P

if ya used 75# / day you run out mid Feb??? or so u need enough to get to april or so. ;) :o

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Post Sat. Oct. 17, 2009 4:47 pm

Oh dear! I better put in a wood burner so I can use my furniture to stay warm the rest of the year! :|

I'd like to figure out how, from this iphone, to post a shot of my lovely coal shed...and post it in the appropriate thread. I'm SO proud of it! (But now it seems a wee bit small!) :shock:

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Post Sun. Oct. 25, 2009 8:16 am

...I realize its only me talkin here, but... :) Guess what! It wasn't only my whimpy shaking,the baro was in the wrong location as well. Our hero, Poconoeagle, moved it from where it was parked right off the stove collar, to about 18" further out on the pipe. Wow! This Kodiak's a totally different bear, now!!! Grrrrrrrrr! The stove thermometer didn't know what to think! How that Sweep got certified I don't know? (Yeah, he's certifiable, all right.)

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Post Sun. Nov. 08, 2009 5:28 pm

My friend has a wood fireplace and he wants to put in a pellet insert. Does he need to install the SS chimney to the roof? The chimney is NOT mason. BTW, he can't use a power vent.

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Post Sun. Nov. 08, 2009 9:20 pm

Pellet stoves come with there own set of rules...
Most pellet stoves need their pipes to go all the way outside...
Either up the chimney or out thru the wall...

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Post Tue. Mar. 16, 2010 11:40 am

samw334 wrote:A stainless steel liner just creates a barrier between your masonry chimney and the creosote buildup from burning. I would put a chimney liner in just to save my masonry chimney the wear and tear.
No need for a S.S. liner if your burning coal only wood creates creosote . Coal makes fly ash the fly ash will eat threw a
S.S. liner in a few short years But not a masonry chimney with a tile or clay liner good for a few hundred Years

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Post Tue. Mar. 16, 2010 11:45 am

There's NO creosote with coal. the problem is you're not "saving your masonry chimney from wear and tear" you are wasting money on an expensive, unnecessary item that will fail within a few short years creating a significant risk and safety hazard by collapsing and blocking the flue etc. Masonry flues will last without issue over 100 years with coal, stainless, 3-8 if you're lucky. stainless liners with coal are an unnecessary hazard that shouldn't even be allowed due to their rapid failure.

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Post Tue. Oct. 19, 2010 7:55 am

Berlin wrote:There's NO creosote with coal. the problem is you're not "saving your masonry chimney from wear and tear" you are wasting money on an expensive, unnecessary item that will fail within a few short years creating a significant risk and safety hazard by collapsing and blocking the flue etc. Masonry flues will last without issue over 100 years with coal, stainless, 3-8 if you're lucky. stainless liners with coal are an unnecessary hazard that shouldn't even be allowed due to their rapid failure.
When is the SS liner most likely to deteriorate? during the off season or when it's running 24/7?

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Post Tue. Oct. 19, 2010 7:57 am

During the off season!

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Post Tue. Oct. 19, 2010 8:01 am

Berlin wrote:There's NO creosote with coal. the problem is you're not "saving your masonry chimney from wear and tear" you are wasting money on an expensive, unnecessary item that will fail within a few short years creating a significant risk and safety hazard by collapsing and blocking the flue etc. Masonry flues will last without issue over 100 years with coal, stainless, 3-8 if you're lucky. stainless liners with coal are an unnecessary hazard that shouldn't even be allowed due to their rapid failure.
When is the SS liner most likely to deteriorate? during the off season or when it's running 24/7?

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Post Tue. Oct. 19, 2010 8:11 am

jrn8265 wrote:During the off season!
Sorry for the double post. I've been having DSL line problems here in rural NH. I can't find a way to delete it.

I've been reading about the SS not holding up and I have a double wall one I installed a few years ago so I've been taking some oil from my trucks oil change and burnt that a few times in a pan stuff with oil and rags in the Harman. It left a hell of a oil like coating to the inside of it so I hope this help slow down the acid burn over the summer. When I restarted the stove this fall I got a good hot wood fire going to burn off the soot/oil film. I checked the outside Tee clean out and it looks good up as far as I can see. If and when I do have a problem I will convert to a Mason chimney.


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