Silage blower to move Pea coal
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So it occurred to me that they use blowers to shoot silage and haylage vertically up into silos.
Has anyone ever used one to move coal.
I would be blowing it roughly 80' at a 16° angle into a 22' tall feed bin. thoughts, ideas?
Has anyone ever used one to move coal.
I would be blowing it roughly 80' at a 16° angle into a 22' tall feed bin. thoughts, ideas?
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Well we filled 80’ silos with high moisture shelled corn that way so I wouldn’t say it can’t work... but...
Personally I think you will have a load of rice when it comes out the bottom of the bin, the four paddles will thrash it to no end. It would definitely be the most violent sound you have ever heard though.
Personally I think you will have a load of rice when it comes out the bottom of the bin, the four paddles will thrash it to no end. It would definitely be the most violent sound you have ever heard though.
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Hello and good afternoon jrv8984,
Now we are getting into the use of a pressure gradient for the dilute phase conveying of solids using positive displacement of atmospheric air and it can be done.
The problem is the velocity of the Pea Coal in transit From A(the loading point) to B(the hopper) and the CFM required to move it using the 6 inch pipe.
Using the 10 wheel feed delivery trucks as the example they use what is referred to as a positive displacement Rotary Lobe or Rotary Vane type blower to move the feed concentrate to the end of the dump body as it is slowly raised to fill the attic of the milking parlor.
They attach a 4 or 6 inch hose to the discharge end of the dump body and connect the other end to the delivery pipe attached to the milking parlor as well as a grounding line to the building to discharge static electricity
The concentrate delivery pipe rises to the level of the attic where the concentrate pellets are blown into to store them and the pellets are gravity fed into the dispenser and then dropped into the feed tray while the cow is milked.
It would be more efficient if you were able to position the silage blower next to or near the bin and the vertical pipe could be elevated to 30-40 feet and attach a series of
white PVC 15 degree elbows using straight pipe pieces to create the arc need to allow the pea coal to flow to the hopper hatch.
If this is not possible, perhaps checking with Wengers of Myerstown to see if they have feed truck that could be salvaged or has been salvaged for the blower and feed hose and the narrow hopper on the rear of the dump body.
The positive displacement blower could be attached to a three point hitch tool carrier and the blower would simply be attached to the salvaged feed hopper from the feed truck and then attached to the one piece black PVC pipe or several joints of white PVC pipe with union connections.
You would have to run the tractor at a higher PTO speed or if you have a tractor with a 1000 RPM PTO that may work well .If you have a tractor with a 1,000 RPM PTO or a speed increaser gearbox for a tractor with a 540 RPM PTO to power a silage blower it may just be enough to overcome the pea coals simply dropping out of the air stream and creating a siltation layer on the bottom of the pipes .invert which will create more friction and slow down the delivery of coal to the point of plugging the pipe.
A blower and a feed hopper from a feed truck may be a better option but you would want to test the blower to see if it will deliver at least 13PSIG at its rated RPM.
Now we are getting into the use of a pressure gradient for the dilute phase conveying of solids using positive displacement of atmospheric air and it can be done.
The problem is the velocity of the Pea Coal in transit From A(the loading point) to B(the hopper) and the CFM required to move it using the 6 inch pipe.
Using the 10 wheel feed delivery trucks as the example they use what is referred to as a positive displacement Rotary Lobe or Rotary Vane type blower to move the feed concentrate to the end of the dump body as it is slowly raised to fill the attic of the milking parlor.
They attach a 4 or 6 inch hose to the discharge end of the dump body and connect the other end to the delivery pipe attached to the milking parlor as well as a grounding line to the building to discharge static electricity
The concentrate delivery pipe rises to the level of the attic where the concentrate pellets are blown into to store them and the pellets are gravity fed into the dispenser and then dropped into the feed tray while the cow is milked.
It would be more efficient if you were able to position the silage blower next to or near the bin and the vertical pipe could be elevated to 30-40 feet and attach a series of
white PVC 15 degree elbows using straight pipe pieces to create the arc need to allow the pea coal to flow to the hopper hatch.
If this is not possible, perhaps checking with Wengers of Myerstown to see if they have feed truck that could be salvaged or has been salvaged for the blower and feed hose and the narrow hopper on the rear of the dump body.
The positive displacement blower could be attached to a three point hitch tool carrier and the blower would simply be attached to the salvaged feed hopper from the feed truck and then attached to the one piece black PVC pipe or several joints of white PVC pipe with union connections.
You would have to run the tractor at a higher PTO speed or if you have a tractor with a 1000 RPM PTO that may work well .If you have a tractor with a 1,000 RPM PTO or a speed increaser gearbox for a tractor with a 540 RPM PTO to power a silage blower it may just be enough to overcome the pea coals simply dropping out of the air stream and creating a siltation layer on the bottom of the pipes .invert which will create more friction and slow down the delivery of coal to the point of plugging the pipe.
A blower and a feed hopper from a feed truck may be a better option but you would want to test the blower to see if it will deliver at least 13PSIG at its rated RPM.
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Haha MG... that was the first thing that came to mind when I read this! I had forgotten all about it until now.
If the consistency of the coal and/or fines is no issue then have at ‘er.
If the consistency of the coal and/or fines is no issue then have at ‘er.
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I've got a 90 hp John deere with 540/1000 rpm pto shafts so that's not a problem. Issue is that where the feed bin needs to go, you have to go through a swampy area, (well with the way its been raining the past 2 years).
The wife is balking at the cost and physical size of grain elevators/augers. And doesn't like me turning everything into a mud hole. Hence the 80' run of pipe from the bin to the road.
Figure vacuuming the pea coal is out, but then I had the idea of a silage blower. But I've never messed with one, so I really have no clue as to whether or not it's a good idea.
Coal is going into a feed bin, which will then feed an auger into the S260 coal gun.
The wife is balking at the cost and physical size of grain elevators/augers. And doesn't like me turning everything into a mud hole. Hence the 80' run of pipe from the bin to the road.
Figure vacuuming the pea coal is out, but then I had the idea of a silage blower. But I've never messed with one, so I really have no clue as to whether or not it's a good idea.
Coal is going into a feed bin, which will then feed an auger into the S260 coal gun.
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I would be leery of the silage blower, I'd be afraid it would pulverize your coal as well as creating a heck of a coal dust storm.
I had contemplated using a grain bin to store coal, I was worried that the moisture in the coal would end up making a frozen mess in the winter.
I had contemplated using a grain bin to store coal, I was worried that the moisture in the coal would end up making a frozen mess in the winter.
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New flex auger wouldn't break the bank...3-1/2" flex auger in a 4" PVC pipe. Add the geared motor and controls and you're set.
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So if I found away to introduce the coal into the silage blower and prevented it from making contact with the paddles, could it still work?
Another thought I had was using multiple leaf blowers attached to wye's. Say 3 or 4 of them every 20'-25' in my 80'+ run.
I basically just want to get a triaxle load delivered and have to go right into the feed bin. But they aren't going to want to wait around for that to happen. But I would like to move the coal as fast as possible.
Another thought I had was using multiple leaf blowers attached to wye's. Say 3 or 4 of them every 20'-25' in my 80'+ run.
I basically just want to get a triaxle load delivered and have to go right into the feed bin. But they aren't going to want to wait around for that to happen. But I would like to move the coal as fast as possible.
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rent a conveyor...
Quick and done...
They use them to unload rail cars...
Quick and done...
They use them to unload rail cars...