Floor for Outside Coal Bin???

This forum is for common products and questions such as chimney installations, CO detectors, coal bin designs and a variety of other general topics that do not fit into the other forums.
Post Reply
eddie
Member
Posts: 24
Joined: Sat. May. 31, 2008 8:43 pm

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 5:11 am

I was going to have coal delivered by having 2 ton dropped in my back yard. It will be dumped over a fence. The coal can't be chuted into my basement, my porch is in the way. Can't get enough pitch for it to flow. I don't want it directly dumped onto the ground. What would be an inexpensive floor(tarp maybe) to dump it on. I would be putting 3/4" plywood for the sides to contain the coal. Thanks!!!

User avatar
Freddy
Member
Posts: 6604
Joined: Fri. Apr. 11, 2008 2:54 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined
Location: Orrington, Maine

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 5:28 am

I guess I'd just buy a blue tarp & dump onto that. You'll be glad you didn't just dump it on the grass as you'd lose some to the Earth, or spend hours picking it out. Two ton will cover an area 8' by 10' if one foot deep.
Orrington, Maine
Fred

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all".

User avatar
Richard S.
Mayor
Posts: 12713
Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
Location: NEPA

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 7:02 am

What size coal, how wide is the porch and I'm assuming there is access to window under the porch?

If you're getting it delivered via a regular high lift coal truck you may be surprised, one of the benefits of regular coal truck is you get velocity on the coal because you can raise it way up. If it's a short distance under the porch like 4 or 5 feet and they can get even a little pitch on a chute laying flat you can put the main chute coming off the truck onto the chute laying flat if that makes any sense. If you post some pics I could probably tell you if it will work or not.

Another option is to cut a trap door in the porch.

Other than that a tarp is fine.
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

- Albert Einstein

User avatar
Scottscoaled
Member
Posts: 2597
Joined: Tue. Jan. 08, 2008 9:51 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520, 700, Van Wert 800 GJ 61,53
Baseburners & Antiques: Magic Stewart 16, times 2!
Coal Size/Type: Lots of buck
Other Heating: Slant Fin electric boiler backup
Location: Malta N.Y.

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 8:57 am

If you are allready buying plywood, why not buy one more sheet? It would help hold the bin together on the bottom :) Scott
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.


User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 9826
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea
Location: Guilford, Connecticut

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 9:42 am

I concurr, it will be a pain trying to shovel the coal up off a tarp and you'll ruin it. Better to use the tarp for just a cover and it will last for years.
Nothing is impossible for people who don't have to do it themselves.

User avatar
Richard S.
Mayor
Posts: 12713
Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
Location: NEPA

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 11:14 am

Depends, tarps a pain to shovel off of the bottom but if dig into the pile itself you can lift it up as you're going keeping it all in nice neat pile. Personally if I was going to put it on tarp 2 tons is not enough to worry about making any sides.
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

- Albert Einstein

User avatar
ceccil
Member
Posts: 1062
Joined: Sat. Mar. 15, 2008 11:33 pm
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Mark III
Location: Elmira, NY

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 11:27 am

I would agree that if delivered in a high lift it would probobly work. I don't know where your from, but if your not in coal country its unlikely to be delivered in one of these. Found a pic of on on ebay so you can see what were talking about in case you have never seen one. I never saw one until joining this forum. Obviously I'm not in coal country.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HighLift-coal-dump ... 0230541610&

I hope the link works, I have never used it on here before!
Jeff
Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

User avatar
ceccil
Member
Posts: 1062
Joined: Sat. Mar. 15, 2008 11:33 pm
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Mark III
Location: Elmira, NY

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 11:33 am

Richard,

I didn't think about it when I posted the link. I'm not trying to advertise anything was merely putting the link on there so they could see the pic. If you have an issue with it, you can remove the post or if you would like I could remove the link.
Jeff
Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain


User avatar
Richard S.
Mayor
Posts: 12713
Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
Location: NEPA

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 11:40 am

Just trying to be helpful, if your coal supplier doesn't have high lift obviously its not an option. The one you posted is quite small BTW. ;)
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

- Albert Einstein

User avatar
Freddy
Member
Posts: 6604
Joined: Fri. Apr. 11, 2008 2:54 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined
Location: Orrington, Maine

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 11:55 am

I was thinking the coal was only going to be outside long enough to wheel barrow it to the inside bin.

I just moved a small amount off a blue tarp & it wasn't so bad. Go easy with the shovel and then lift the tarp to make a new little pile. For sure you could puncture the tarp if you weren't careful.
Orrington, Maine
Fred

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all".

ken
Member
Posts: 1262
Joined: Sat. Apr. 21, 2007 11:35 pm
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker - Rice Coal
Stove/Furnace Model: 75K - Bay Window - Direct Vent
Location: thompson , ohio

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 12:18 pm

that truck only holds 3 ton? most people who get coal , usally get 4 or 5 tons for the season , no. seams like a useless truck.
"Politicians are like socks; if you don't change them often enough they start to stink."

User avatar
Richard S.
Mayor
Posts: 12713
Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
Location: NEPA

Post Sun. Jun. 22, 2008 12:31 pm

Well Ken that lift by the looks of it is probably 50 or 60 years old. 1 and 2 ton deliveries many years ago were quite common. Back then if a coal dealer travelled more than a few miles he was going far. If you're not going too far you could deliver almost as fast with a smaller truck. Even today 2 ton deliveries locally make up a lot of business or one ton for dealers that will provide it, most trucks are 4/5 tons. I had few 1 "toners" myself but those people would call well in advance. Worked out for me because I'd fit it into split load when I had room for it.
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

- Albert Einstein

Post Reply

Return to “Coal Bins, Chimneys, CO Detectors & Thermostats”