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Post By: Soupy6914 » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 9:57 am

So I’m pretty sure that I’m going to install an EFM 520 in my basement. The problem is I went up on the roof to look down the masonry chimney, and I noticed there is no clay liner just brick. Right now I have an oil boiler hooked up to it. That will get separated out and put on a power vent. Now the question is should I worry about having a liner? or just put the boiler in and start burning?

Info on the chimney. Opening at top is 10”x9.5”. Two story house.

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Post By: lincolnmania » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 10:03 am

my chimney has no liner either.
i'm not worried about it. the bottom half was installed probably 60 yrs ago. the top part i did with the help of a 78 year old mason in 1991 when i put a two story addition on the house. sal said we didn't need a liner unless we were going to burn wood.
my grandparents and great aunt and uncle lived on this street too, no liners, most of the neighbors, no liners.
every one of these houses had a coal furnace when they were built between 1930 and 1951.

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Post By: freetown fred » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 2:34 pm

Ditto, not a problem at all. Get to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 2:51 pm

The very last thing you need is a liner. If the chimney is good, you're ready to rock and roll.

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Post By: scalabro » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 4:39 pm

As said you’ll be fine but if you end up needing one, go for AL29 stainless. Don’t let the old farts around here fool ya!

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Post By: freetown fred » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 5:03 pm

Scott, you're confusin foolin with been there, done that knowledge. Over time stainless breaks down no matter how pretty the manufacturers make it sound. Just an old farmers experience. :)

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Post By: scalabro » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 5:13 pm

Not really Bro... AL29 is highly resistant to coal ash and with routine Mx will last a long time. Plus, if sized correctly it will draft exceedingly well. Mortar is subject to degradation from acidic ash as well. No doubt masonry is preferable but not everyone has that option.

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 5:25 pm

scalabro wrote:
Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 5:13 pm
Not really Bro... AL29 is highly resistant to coal ash and with routine Mx will last a long time. Plus, if sized correctly it will draft exceedingly well. Mortar is subject to degradation from acidic ash as well. No doubt masonry is preferable but not everyone has that option.

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$1400 for 20' + parts and labor? I think not.

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Post By: scalabro » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 5:26 pm

Hahahahaha you slay me! Price the install of a clay liner.

The average length of home ownership is 11-15 years. It’s a bargain.

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Post By: Den034071 » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:00 pm

I am a bricklayer an Boca code official for 42 years .If there are no holes in chimney You Are Fine .Contact me if I can be of help .There are some unknowledge able people on the forum .Jack

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:01 pm

A bargin maybe, but he doesn't need it. His oil burner is happy with it, why wouldn't a coal burner be the same?

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Post By: scalabro » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:04 pm

Re read my first reply.

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:17 pm

scalabro wrote:
Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:04 pm
Re read my first reply.
OK, what am I missing?

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Post By: scalabro » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:27 pm

Um... that done correctly, I agree that masonry is best.

I thought I replied in English.

But it’s a shame that good liners get trashed on this site. It’s bogus info. As with anything, you get what you pay for. The folks on here who had a problem bought a crappy quality liner and most likely did not maintain it.

I’d rather pay for a good liner than a half assed masonry job that’s for sure.

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Feb. 07, 2018 6:33 pm

Yes, I read your response, it was English. A good liner is worth the money.... if you need one. Why do you assume his masonry is half assed?

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