Wiring a Heat Exchanger and Modine and Pump.

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McGiever
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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 2:34 am

hotblast1357 wrote:New problem

so this is where I have the t'stat wires going to my furnace to turn on just the fan while also turning on the pump. If I unhook the t'stat wires from the fan, then the pump works correctly with the relay, and if I unhook the t'stat wires from the pump relay the fan comes on correctly, but if I have them both hooked up things start humming. Obviously something is back feeding on the 24 volt side, is there some other place I can run my TT wires in this diagram that will allow only my fan to come on?
What they are saying is correct...cannot have 2 different source 24volt transformers fighting each other...that is what you have. Humming!!!
You will need the 4th relay.

Furnace fan needs the furnace 24volts transformer's cicuit switched thru the 4th relay. But just the G wire.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 6:52 pm

All done. everything is working correctly now, thanks too scott, the last pic is from my cell, using the MANYTHING app, I can now check in on the boiler from anywhere.
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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 8:07 pm

Very nice. I am looking forward to hearing how the system works in the cold weather.

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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 8:45 pm

im looking forward too it also rob, I think its going to work very well compared to the hotblast furnace.. the hotblast performed great and was excellent on coal, but with this I have a lot more options and controls.

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Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 8:51 pm

Good job & just in time,cold weather is probably dropping in on you guys each morning now or will soon.
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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 8:52 pm

yes it is, had 37 here this morning, was 62 inside, wife was NOT HAPPY lol right now its 48 outside and 73 inside, much better.

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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 9:00 pm

Nice job H.B. I'm glad you got that all figured out. I couldn't tell what the heck was go'in on with those relays without being there and looking at them so I kept my mouth shut. Lucky we have a lot of people on this forum that have experience and knowledge they are willing to share.

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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 9:07 pm

yes don im very thankful of the people on here, in the end it could of been done a lot easier with two pumps but I just didnt see the need for that much pump power when I didnt need it.


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Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 10:03 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:yes it is, had 37 here this morning, was 62 inside, wife was NOT HAPPY lol right now its 48 outside and 73 inside, much better.
We had 30* outside temp last yr. b4 we got ours fired,your wife should be very happy with you tomorrow a/m when the boiler is maintaining a comfortable temp in your house :)
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Post Sat. Sep. 26, 2015 11:19 pm

Glad to hear you got the New Yorker up and running. :up:

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Post Sun. Sep. 27, 2015 6:17 am

thanks guys, yes very happy this morning, a little warmer out this morning, 39, but a nice 72 in the house, its suppose to get 73 today but I don't think it will with everything being so cold already.

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Post Sun. Sep. 27, 2015 12:02 pm

Nice shootin SC :rambo: trouble shootin that is :D
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Post Sun. Sep. 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Others may benefit if you explain how you wired the RIB's and which model you used.

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Post Sun. Sep. 27, 2015 12:50 pm

Yes rob I thought so also, tonight when I get home I will make a detailed wiring diagram on the laptop.

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Post Sun. Sep. 27, 2015 1:58 pm

That information is Top Secret :) You know what happens if it is leaked out? :lol: :lol:
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.


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